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Time to Evolve from Evolution (Saturbray)
www.brayincandy.com ^ | 2/2/13 | bray

Posted on 02/02/2013 9:30:30 AM PST by bray

Be careful, however, that the exercise of your Freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 1 Cor 8:9

What if everything about evolution is a lie? This would mean everything built on the theory of evolution is a fraud too. One of the primary gaps evolutionists never want to discuss is where life began? They have two primary theories, it either randomly developed from the primordial soup of came from another universe on an asteroid. Neither of these theories is believable yet the entire theory of evolution is built on them even though the odds are around one in infinity.

There is a huge void in scientific explanation how life and evolution started so most scientists dismiss it as not important or in any need of explanation or proof. They say there was a Big Bang when nothing became something and then exploded into an explosion creating the universe according to all of their infallible models. After billions and billions of years, life magically, oops, scientifically appeared to begin the evolutionary chain. The only explanation the Darwinists have for life beginning is time rather than God. For evolutionists God is to be mocked while billions and billions of years is a serious explanation.

If you ask an evolutionist how life began they will immediately tell you that how life began is not a part of evolution. If you continue to ax the question they will either call you all types of names the worst of which is Christian or explain how only scientists understand how life began. It usually comes down to their ability to intimidate and bully people and even fellow scientists into backing down from the obvious black hole of life’s beginning. They will usually begin their virtual firing squad for anyone daring to question the beginning of life as subhuman and not part of academia’s Holy of Holies.

Their primary explanation is the primordial soup explanation. After the Big Bang and the earth formed with millions of years of volcanoes and flowing lava when the hydrogen and oxygen combined to form water and the cooling began. Randomly the earth just happened to circle the sun at exactly the right orbit and rotation to make the water the perfect temperature for life. Then a few million years ago the chemicals randomly formed amino acids turning into some type of primitive bacteria and billions of years later that bacteria is making laptops.

The problem with this theory is how complex that random event had to be. As scientists become more and more familiar with amino acids and DNA they are finding it is far more complex than they ever knew it was. The genetic codes are still ninety eight percent unexplained as they find more and more unexplainable pieces of the complexity it points less and less to a random act. They were dismissing the unexplained parts as Junk DNA pieces since they have only been able to identify less than 2% of DNA code and invented the term junk for the rest. This should be insulting to their intelligence and certainly to ours. As they get deeper and deeper into the DNA code they are finding that there is no junk in the code and more complexity making the randomness even less possible. Simply Google junk DNA and find out the lies are being exposed by those brave enough to question science. It would take trillions and trillions of years for a DNA helix to form randomly not simply billions. http://www.psrast.org/junkdna.htm

Their second explanation which is not as universally accepted but basically a fallback theory is the amino acids and life source came from space. This was developed when they realized their primordial soup explanation really didn’t hold water. So they developed the asteroid explanation that a life seed came from a distant solar system billions of light years away and fell to the earth at just the right time and apparently into the ocean after it survived the billion year trip in a vacuum and thousand degree temps during entry into our atmosphere. The obvious questions are where did it come from and is the solar system it came from more or less superior than ours. It is ok to believe there are life forms on other planets but it is not ok to believe there is a God.

Simply because a scientist says over billions of years and billions of chances can make something happen does not make it so. This is only a theory but one that really does not withstand the smell test when you think about it. Fortunately for evolution, scientists generally refuse to question any of their theories and rely on consensus to verify and vilify their earth sized holes in their theories. They have had to fight for this theory so completely and ignore so many craters it has become more of a magic show than science. They use smoke and mirrors to keep people from asking the important questions or demanding an explanation of why those odds are looking more like infinity to one than the truth.

Imagine if scientists spent as much time, energy and money trying to find out if God is real than trying to disprove God. Science has become a religion based on an atheistic belief that we began as nothing and when we die we go back to nothing. It is a religion that places all of its faith in evolution with no explanation of how life arrived but when it came, random chance and mutations has got us to the point man can think, read and write. They have replaced God with billions and billions of years so time is the miracle of our creation. What is the difference between their faith in billions of years and faith in God?

Evolution became the first agenda driven junk science of the modern world. Science is basically following a 19th century idea which if they were true scientists would have been disproved millions of times over but the politics won’t allow it. They need to have people turn from God to force their hope and trust in the gummit. They need the people to believe gummit is their god where all of their hope exists.

If people would put their faith and hope in God they would not need the gummit and most of its controls. If people were saved by Jesus Christ and believed he is where all hope exists there would be a heaven beyond this earth, something the Darwinists can’t offer. If there is a heaven and hell and Jesus saves us sinners from that torture we deserve then we wouldn’t need gummit to regulate our lives as we would simply follow the rules set in the Bible. This is the communists’ greatest fear that people would be free to live their lives as they wish without their absolute control.

Imagine if science were to investigate the marvel of God’s creation and how it so miraculously relates together rather than attempting to use his design as proof there is no God? Science could actually be a positive to most lives rather than its need to be god and repeatedly use its power to control our lives with all of their junk science decrees. You can see all the failures of science everywhere you look so why do we continue to believe evolution with all of its massive gaps? It is time to evolve from evolution.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; FReeper Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: evolution; lifebegins
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To: bray

Yes, but the bigger picture, is when later researchers use the admittedly speculative conclusions to establish new conclusions.

This is how you get “assumed evolution” used to “prove” evolution. In addition, it also lends itself to serial revisions by scientist that are attempting to make a name for themselves.

Now, the evolutionist will tell you that “this is how science works”. All the while they fail to realize that the theory is a “self supporting” construct.


281 posted on 02/04/2013 4:41:00 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: OneWingedShark
Theology is a science

So you say, instead of explaining why you don't take it over the the Religion forum.

282 posted on 02/04/2013 7:38:05 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: OneWingedShark
No

That's what I thought.

283 posted on 02/04/2013 7:39:32 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Zeneta

This is not science? No - this is exactly science. There are no guarantees, there are no proofs, there are no absolutes. The whole concept of the scientific method is that there are qualifiers. All crows are black - no?


284 posted on 02/04/2013 8:28:58 PM PST by stormer
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To: tacticalogic
>>Theology is a science
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>So you say, instead of explaining why you don't take it over the the Religion forum.

Because theology is not religion.

Religion Theology
  1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
  2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
  3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
  4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
  5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
  1. the field of study and analysis that treats of God and of God's attributes and relations to the universe; study of divine things or religious truth; divinity.
  2. a particular form, system, branch, or course of this study.
  3. "...the systematic and rational study of concepts of God and its influences and of the nature of religious truths..." (from wikipedia)

The more interesting question is why you seem hung up on the idea of theology as a science; I don't see you railing against philosophy. (What about the really soft sciences, like sociology?)
285 posted on 02/04/2013 8:34:34 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: stormer
This is not science? No - this is exactly science. There are no guarantees, there are no proofs, there are no absolutes.

Disproof by counterexample: mathematics.

286 posted on 02/04/2013 8:36:11 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Zeneta

I’m glad to see you confess your ignorance. Where does your confusion lie?


287 posted on 02/04/2013 8:39:00 PM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

......This is not science? No - this is exactly science. There are no guarantees, there are no proofs, there are no absolutes. The whole concept of the scientific method is that there are qualifiers...........

The science of perpetual uncertainty.

In the mean time, accept it.


288 posted on 02/04/2013 8:43:00 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: stormer

Your failure to read and comprehend is in full display.

once again.


289 posted on 02/04/2013 8:45:34 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: OneWingedShark
The semantic quagmire that is conversation with you is not producing anything of value to offset considerable effort required.

You do your cause no service.

290 posted on 02/04/2013 8:46:43 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Wpin
You seem to want some kind of linearity, and I'm afraid the development of species is somewhat more complicated - convergence and divergence, the eradication of populations, and the isolation of populations confound history. Of course Darwin recognized problems with his theory - if you could point me to specifics, perhaps I could address them.
291 posted on 02/04/2013 8:47:21 PM PST by stormer
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To: OneWingedShark

Mathematics is not a science.


292 posted on 02/04/2013 8:49:03 PM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

.......Mathematics is not a science..........

You are a child.

You call yourself a materialist.

You call yourself, to a certain extent, a scientist.

But the very capacities you use for discovery, are somehow unscientific.


293 posted on 02/04/2013 8:53:18 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: stormer

Back your assertion.


294 posted on 02/04/2013 9:02:48 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: tacticalogic

Maybe evolution should go over to the religion forum?


295 posted on 02/04/2013 9:03:35 PM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: bray
Maybe evolution should go over to the religion forum?

You started this.............. WTF ?

296 posted on 02/04/2013 9:05:12 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: Zeneta

I cannot speak to your scientific education, only my own. I can say, that within the realm of science, I am far from a child. That does not mean that I do not have a lot to learn or that my education is complete, but it does mean that when discussing the means, goals, and methods of science, I actually do speak with some authority. I’m not a mechanic, so I won’t tell you how to fix your car, but I do know science - take it or leave it.


297 posted on 02/04/2013 9:06:00 PM PST by stormer
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To: tacticalogic
The semantic quagmire that is conversation with you is not producing anything of value to offset considerable effort required.

I'm sorry you feel that way -- from where I sit it seems you're the one who is demanding explanation only to fail to engage in any intercourse by simply dismissing any reasoning I make as "semantics".

You do your cause no service.

LOL -- Now that is funny... not because of you; but because it seems that can be said of anything I care about.

298 posted on 02/04/2013 9:09:39 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
It's not my assertion - math simply does not meet the criteria of science. It had no predictive value and is not falsifiable.
299 posted on 02/04/2013 9:16:58 PM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

No, you can’t speak to my education, but I can speak to yours.

I know you use mental capacities, math and logic, that can’t be defined by your standards of materialism.

This is called using the logical conclusions of evolution, specifically, presupposition and free will.

Am I predisposed to God? It’s in my genes?

Are you predisposed to evolution?


300 posted on 02/04/2013 9:17:27 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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