Posted on 12/31/2012 9:54:19 AM PST by marktwain
Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.
Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.
Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.
They will be leaderless, stateless, difficult to track, and considering the number of military veterans that would likely be among their number, extremely skilled at sabotage, assassination, and ambush.
After a number of carefully-planned, highly-publicized, and successful raids by the government, one or more will invariably end “badly.” Whether innocents are gunned down, a city block is burned to ash, or especially fierce resistance leads to a disastrously failed raid doesn’t particularly matter.
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Funny thing is the only out the government would have when this shtf is bringing in foriegn troops and that is when the fun starts. No right minded US military man would put up with that. I hope. It would be total chaos. But in the end we would prevail. I think?
Any "cell" with more than 3 people is inherrantly fragile, and most likely fed-infiltrated.
Shoot, shovel, shut up. Tell no one.
Not gonna happen. Not saying there won’t be some regs (probably on assalt weapons) but there is zero chance of significant regulation (a good thing). SCOTUS has already ruled on the primary issue, courts are following that ruling, legislatures (for the most part) aren’t regulating guns, it won’t pass Congress, etc, etc, etc.
Furthermore, if anyone thinks that gun owners are going to stand against a government as powerful as the U.S., and be successful on any level, they are under a severe delusion. Most gun owners won’t fight. Only a handful of military would join those that do fight. The government has tanks and drones and ... well the list goes on.
They will not take our guns away. Never gonna happen. But if they wanted to, they could easily do so. This isn’t Red Dawn.
As a thought exercise i suppose one of the first act of resistance would be the sabotage of the military equipment in the hands of non-military organizations such as the DHS, TSA, city police departments, etc.
Most every nation on the planet has an interest in reducing America's influence if they can't control it, so much of the likely foreign interference will be duplicitous.
Officially they will strongly support Obama and the most strident gun controllers. Behind the scenes, they will smuggle all the support and weapons possible to the targeted gun owning population. The longer and more difficult (for the nation) the rebellion is, the weaker America becomes in influence everywhere in the world.
And that is the point, as the world's only superpower military that most other nations cannot control, the safest thing for them is a much weaker America, one where the military doesn't get along with itself, the people, or the politicians, a divided nation AND military.
Likewise, wise foreigners don't want a clean Obama success, putting that overwhelming US Military in the unchecked hands of a petulant Marxist child, so they will see this conflict become as destructive to America , and last as long, as possible.
You’re talking basically about zip-guns, staple of inner-city violence from a bygone era, and they were outdated once criminals got the wherewithal (through strong-arm robbery or welfare bucks) to illicitly purchase “the real thing”.
The new legislation that will come in the wake of small-business “arms” manufacturing, will take the form of the kinds of laws in place prohibiting illegal marijuana growing and moonshine stills.
True, but the Democrats, and not a few RINOS, have already shown they don't give a crap about the Bill of Rights, or the rest of the Constitution for that matter.
Those who vote for the Santa Claus party also don't care as long as they get their "free stuff".
Easily done to most small departments, poorly protected. Some of this stuff is out in the open near city streets. I've wondered, just how would the rebellion start? A few cells laying siege to federal buildings, or raids on police stations? Whatever happens, it would be quick and the culprits would quickly disappear to strike elsewhere. Lots of small operations simultaneously everywhere to throw the tyrannicals off balance.
Bravo Sierra, there's no shortage of LEOs who will gleefully shoot a penned up Golden Retriever so I don't expect any problem getting unconstitutional orders obeyed.
The only thing that can change the 2nd amendment is another amendment.
Wrong. When Obama puts one or more of his Socialist-loving cronies on the Supreme Court, they can (and will) redefine their interpretation such that the second amendment does not apply to individuals; rather, it recognizes the right of a state to arm its militia. Following that Congress will have the green light to regulate, and/or prohibit individual gun ownership followed by confiscation.
At that point there won't be much left except survival. The various thugs who come to steal your food and any valuables will not be deterred by anything other than being dead. A few local authorities might help you, but probably just give you the advice you just gave.
I doubt it happens also. In fact, I KNOW it won’t happen.
What WILL happen, though, will precisely follow the arc of
all those “issues” which are designed to be polarizing, and play out in the public arena attended by the usual unilluminating oversimplified expressions of the US vs. THEM
positions: what we’ll get is a tiresome, and virtually endlessly exhausting series of proposals, threats, intimidation, demagoguery, all in the service of winning hearts and minds for your particular point of view-—it will be a charade, with the RKBA side of the issue always on the defensive and having to re-state the same positions they’ve been putting forth since time immemorial.Ultimately , the gun-grabbers, led by the hard-liners on the Left, will calibrate the precise guidelines for any new legislation with the overall intention to get legal gun owners crazy with fear and apprehension over the prospect of confiscation
(compensated of course by “buybacks”), and push them into
the kind of position that will make them look like outcast militia-types, stockpiling weapons and making plans to overthrow the government. NOBODY SHOULD TAKE THIS BAIT!
Yes it is not Red Dawn the commies would have never gotten that far and back then we would have continued the use of nukes. Even if they wanted they don’t have enough manpower to confiscate anything. WOD proved that. We can’t even control our own border. All they can do is over-regulate and tax and hope to get them via attrition. Also, make no mistake we sold enough arms in our times that there are other countries chomping at the bit to sell arms/ammo to our civilians.
The country is on the verge of a schism and who knows what straw will break the camels back. Gun control is definitely one of them. I for one am tiring of the “people” who keep trying to remind some of us that we won’t do anything when the time comes. You don’t know me or anyone I know, so spout that conformist shit elsewhere. Once the fight starts there will be 3 sides, the marxist, the patriots, and the conformist (pansies for lack of a better word) who will go the ways of the Jews in last century given the chance.
>>This isn’t Red Dawn.<<
Not yet. If they want our guns, they’ll have to fight us. Those who won’t fight, get used to your chains.
Golden Retrievers normally don’t have the capability to shoot back.
There would be a lot of folks unwilling to be the first to stick their necks out,
but would readily join up with the cause once they see they aren’t going to be standing up alone with their pants around their ankles.
Golden Retrievers don't have index fingers.
If I recall correctly, the Afghans held off the Russians and ourselves for many, many years. They didn’t have an air force, tanks, or drones and yet…
I would be shocked if the police refused to carry out any ordered activity;they will just do it with the excuse the lawyers can sort it out later.
The fraudulent election of a foreign-born Marxist-Muslim-narcissist may very well spell the end of America as envisioned these many years past.
A few thousands might resist with force but unless they successfully take out prime movers their acts will just be used to scare the general population into submission to the government.
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