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Holder: We Must Answer 'Hard Questions' About Gun Rights
Breitbart ^ | 12/15/12 | Mary Chastain

Posted on 12/15/2012 9:35:32 PM PST by Nachum

Attorney General Eric Holder made a few remarks about the massacre at Newtown, Connecticut's Sandy Hook Elementary School that should raise some eyebrows.

"As a nation I think we have to ask ourselves some hard questions. We gather too often to talk about these kinds of incidents. We need to discuss who we are as a nation, talk about the freedoms that we have, the rights that we have and how those might be used in a responsible way. But for now I think we should concentrate on dealing with the situation in Connecticut and we are doing, and I said, the best we can at the Justice Department and throughout federal law enforcement."

Mr. Holder has not been one to hide his hatred of guns. In March Breitbart News uncovered a video of Mr. Holder talking to the Woman's National Democratic Club in 1995. He wanted a campaign to "really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way" and to use anti-smoking ads as a way to "change the hearts and minds of people in Washington, DC" about guns.

In Operation Fast and Furious the ATF allowed guns to walk into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. Emails have shown officers discussing how to use these stats to enforce tougher gun control laws.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bradywatch; democrats; ericholder; gun; guncontrol; holder; liberalfascism; rights; sandyhookpolitics; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: GenXteacher

Would you suggest he be executed by firing squad?


81 posted on 12/16/2012 11:14:12 AM PST by Terry Mross ( I don't watch the "news". Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: quantim

One of them happened Friday. Same number of casualties.


82 posted on 12/16/2012 11:15:26 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Nachum

First, I’d like to see him answer some hard questions about his government arming narco-terrorists in Mexico,


83 posted on 12/16/2012 11:16:58 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Terry Mross

Might have to import some guns from Mexico first.....


84 posted on 12/16/2012 11:22:29 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Nachum

Holder needs to answer some “hard” questions, and do some “hard” time.


85 posted on 12/16/2012 11:24:56 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Nachum

Let’s make Holder answer why he and Obama illegally sold guns from the US to MExican drug gangs, committing acts of war against Mexico??? 250+ Americans, federal agents, and Mexicans were killed with those guns.


86 posted on 12/16/2012 11:28:41 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Art in Idaho

“3. The staff rotates every summer until 100% of the staff are handgun proficient.”

But that would result in giving union dolts weapons. Is that a good idea?


87 posted on 12/16/2012 11:29:45 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (You can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

exactly
the left and the media will never mention this modern parenting as they are to blame.

Lets take for instance a news media woman/guy for example.

They have kids, then hire a nanny, place the kids in day care, they get a dog walker, they get a cleaner, kids not doing too good, have the kid take some drugs.
They go out to eat most nights and party events for work etc.

Where are they spending time with THEIR KIDS?

How about eating in and showing the kid how to cook, spend time with the kid, clean up after thus showing the kid how to cook and clean up after themselves.
How about making the kids walk their own dog.
How about telling kids what is right and wrong and that ahrd work will get you rewards and we are not all equal .
How about telling boys it;s alright to get a bruise or dirty.
How about telling the kid when they fall to get up and not give the band aid and ice right away for their little boo boo[rolls eyes]

The left started with bra burnings to promote divorce , to have school teachers raise the kids with an agenda.

Once thta kid like all these shooters do is once in the real world they can;t cope, they can;t handle pressure, yes mother bought them all what they wanted, the tablet i-pad at aged 4, the play station, the TV in the room, the Blue ray movies but they never got the love and guidence kids need.

In about an hour we will sit down for dinner as we do every day, we will talk to each other.
My oldest has just cut next doors grass.
My daughter is in the kitchen with the misses learning to cook and she enjoys that.
My other boy is working on his soccer as he is now with an English club in their acadamy.
Later my boy goes to soccer, whilst my other kids are studying for their tests coming up this week.
All know how to shoot, fish etc, all are at the top in teir education, all use manners and all understand what is happening in the world.

Look at the age of these shooters.
Look at when all this crap started and then think of when the left started to destroy the traditional family.
Then look at their backgrounds, shrinks, divorce, both parents working for that Audi instead of a camry.
Look at what and how TV has changed, boys kissing boys in shows, boys acting like sissies and crying over a boo boo which no one can see.
hell I see it all the time how a boy gets a tackle, falls down cries and the parents coming running on asking if it;s broken.
They would know if it were, stop treating the kid like he;s a baby, get him up and get on with the game.

sorry for the long rant but this crap pisses me off, the left brought us this new age family and this is what we get a generation of all about them and not understanding that life isn;t fair.

How may times do we hear obama saying about fair, fair this fair that?

Those kids and people died due to a nutcase a kid which was not raised right and parents not spending time witht eir kids and teaching them life.

Gretchen Carlson said this last week after she interviewd a guy in parental guidence.
“Oh that sounds good I know what I will do witht he kids on Christmas after non now”

HUH, she did nto know what to do before a movie, she gets a day off and has to take them to the movies on Christmas day.
How about getting up, watching them open presents, teach them what Christmas is about, play with their presents with them, cook a nice dinner, clean up , yes we all hate that but it;s part of life.
What was she doing about cooking, getting others to cook, eating out,

She;s just part of the problem and though she doesn’;t admit it and still she;ll harp on about how those ovens should be different colors so boys can play with them she is like so many part of the problem


88 posted on 12/16/2012 11:31:25 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Nachum

Maybe the shooter got the weapons from the Fast and Furious episode.


89 posted on 12/16/2012 11:35:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: manc; FlingWingFlyer

Thanks, excellent post.


90 posted on 12/16/2012 11:35:59 AM PST by thecodont
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To: manc

I agree. One thing I will say about my middle boy, THE ONE THAT DROVE ME AND THE WIFE CRAZY as we were trying to raise him. They have a girl 13 and a boy 8. They watch those two kids like a hawk and are involved in EVERYTHING both of those kids do. Everything. I wouldn’t say they keep them on a tight leash but they do have a hold of the leash and know when it needs a good yank. They are raising two great kids who are going to be great adults. They don’t go to public schools but attend an outstanding school run by a church. The school has outstanding teachers who love America. Although the school has really grown over the years, the waiting list to get a child into the school is absolutely ridiculous.


91 posted on 12/16/2012 11:42:39 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Nachum

So the man who armed Mexican drug gangs now wants to disarm American citizens.

Nice.


92 posted on 12/16/2012 11:45:33 AM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: Nachum
The conversation this weekend has already switched to mental health.

This blog posting has gone viral and provided much needed data.

The politicians are already behind the times.

93 posted on 12/16/2012 11:53:10 AM PST by superloser
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To: thecodont

the post needed better punctuation but hopefully others will know what I;m getting at.

Thank you.


94 posted on 12/16/2012 11:56:18 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

good for them, sounds like you did a great job yourself.

Sadly so many others do not and that is who I was pointing out.

I could give you so many examples from some neighbors kids to my kids pals and what they tell me about their parents, one girl sees a different guy in her kitchen every weekend when she wakes up, another at aged 15 could not even use a knife and fork, another comes home from the national guard as he wants free cllege at the weekend and gives the kid to his mother so he never gets to spend time with the kid.

There are so many examples so I won;t bore you or others but I think many conservatives know what the real problems are and they are not my SIG or other guns.

Anyway got to go dinner coming up yum yum


95 posted on 12/16/2012 11:59:55 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: RitchieAprile

“you can’t just confine people because they have behavior
issues unless those issues rise to the level of crime.”

Of course. But I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

If someone needs urgent medical attention and is unconscious would you

(a) leave them on the sidewalk till they’ve given their informed consent for you to call an ambulance, or

(b) walk on by?

Mental health issues don’t just appear out of nowhere. In most cases there are signs and symptoms. If those are acted upon by those who can see them, then mental disturbances can be treated medically, through counselling, and so on.

Is it not the case that people can be taken to a psychiatric hospital if people are sufficiently worried about their mental state? Or do you object to that on the basis that they’ve actually got to do something that’s certifiably insane - like go on a killing spree - before anyone tries to help them?

A schizo not getting treatment and then gunning down a bunch of people before being locked up for decades or sent to death row costs society a whole lot more than a schizo getting treatment to manage their condition. Nobody’s freedom is impinged. Fewer people would die from it as well. And no gun control would be required.


96 posted on 12/16/2012 12:02:18 PM PST by MalPearce
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To: Nachum

Sorry Eric, but you are complicit in F&F and that just leaves you qualified for one thing.

Breaking rocks behind bars.


97 posted on 12/16/2012 12:05:21 PM PST by Gasshog
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To: Gasshog

And its likely that Eric the Guilty will escape prison here on earth.

But certain he will soon enough fall into the hands of a Living God who will be his judge.


98 posted on 12/16/2012 12:08:13 PM PST by Gasshog
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To: MalPearce

Its a very slippery slope to embark upon depriving free citizen of their liberty on the sayso of a medical professional. I would like to believe that only legitimately
threatening people get deprived of their liberty in this way.

But in practice, governments have been known to adjudge all manner of inconvenient behavior as ‘threatening’ and therefore worthy of confinement in a facility.

I am saddened by the loss of life, and wish that other adults in the man’s life had been more careful in storing their firearms. But I’m not reading anything in the news that suggests he did anything that rises to the level of
a threat to violence that could be articulated to a judge
and a warrant for arrest issued.

This may be the price of being free, to allow the nutters
to circulate freely. I would not trade freedom from being possibly arbitrarily confined because someone else thinks I’m nuts, for security. That test needs to meet a high bar.


99 posted on 12/16/2012 12:24:37 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: MalPearce
Seems to me that the last clause of that is sacrosanct if and only if the first one is also sacrosanct.

That is absolutely wrong. Here is an article about what a language expert says about the 2nd Amendment...

THE UNABRIDGED SECOND AMENDMENT

100 posted on 12/16/2012 12:40:11 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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