Posted on 11/18/2012 11:48:22 AM PST by greyfoxx39
Carlos Gutierrez, adviser to Mitt Romneys presidential campaign, said Sunday he was shocked by Romneys comments this week on minorities.
I think we lost the election because the far right of this party has taken the party to a place that it doesnt belong.
CNN reported:
In an interview set to air in full Sunday on CNNs State of the Union with Candy Crowley, Gutierrez also sharply criticized Romneys remarks made on a call Wednesday with donors following his loss in last weeks election. Romney explained his loss in part by pointing to gifts President Barack Obama gave to certain groups that turned out in high numbers.
Gutierrez, the former secretary of commerce, said he was shocked by Romneys comments.
I think we lost the election because the far right of this party has taken the party to a place that it doesnt belong, he said. We are the party of prosperity, of growth, of tolerance. I mean these immigrants who come across and what they do wrong is they risk their lives, they come here and they work because they want to be part of the American Dream.
Of course conservatives are opposed to “prosperity, growth, and tolerance” like Gutierrez claims. (smirk)
“The base always needs to be fed with the registrations of new voters.
That wasn’t part of the Rombot campaign ~ so he lost.”
Did Reagan get registrations of new voters?
There are a number of reasons why Romney lost.
Romney went wobbly on us close to the election.
And there was far more voter fraud than ever, it seems, and nobody seemed to fight it. I heard a talk show host say that Geroge Soros owned some of the voting machines that were made in other countries.
The left is so blatant about it, that in at least one district, Romney didn’t even get one vote. The left must be laughing at us.
I was repeatedly informed by Team Mittens' representatives on this very site, throughout the entirety of 2012, that:
a.) ... as a socon, my views and desires were "statistically insignificant" and "fringe," and therefore did not merit serious (or even grudging) consideration or inclusion; AND, simultaneously --
b.) ... as a socon, my lone, individual vote was absolutely essential, and the only sure thing standing between The Forces of Light and C'Thulhu's Extra-Dimensional Army.
At no point whatsoever did the thundering cognitive dissonance absolutely inherent in those two violently antipodal viewpoints occur to any of them, however fleetingly.
So, obviously, then: they ended up blaming Mittens' epic electoral belly flop on voter fraud. ;)
I’m sure there was voter fraud last time but I think it was much more this year. They planned to win regardless of what they had to do. They knew people were disgusted with Obama and that he was in trouble. They bought a lot of illegal alien votes. Everything showed a race that was so close it was a tie. I don’t believe there is any way Romney was down that much more than McCain. McCain was a joke.
Now that does sound like a viable plan. Let's focus on that for a spell. Would you like to start a vanity thread on that idea?
They cut through the dross and simply invited state groups ~ still extant state based Whig parties, and new Abolitionist state organizations ~ to send representatives or delegates to the new committee.
We can look out there and see that the Republican party is broken even though a good 85% of the party is intact, functioning, and sees no reason why they have to adopt Democrat positions to win elections in the future.
Let's look at the party base. Back in 2006 we had 26 million voters stay home.
That was an historic event ~ a record breaker. No political party in American history had ever had that many of their base voters just stay home.
We could go over and over what went wrong, but it got down to a failure of the party leadership to bother organizing that year to win the Congressional races.
That was followed by 2008 when we had a drop off from the 2004 Presidential race. That was followed by 2010, another mid-term election, and this time we only lost 15 million voters!
Compared to 2006 that was a whopping victory.
Now, compare that to the Democrats. In 2006 they didn't have 26 million voters decline to show up ~ they had a drop off from 2004, but it was nothing like that.
In 2008 they had a history making 69 million people vote Democrat. They beat us by 10 million voters!
Then, after the failures of the Obama regime became apparent to the dullest of the dull they broke records in the number of voters showing up to vote for their guys ~ they lost 30 million voters!
That was followed in 2012 by a drop of about 6.5 million in the number of voters they'd had in 2008.
It might have occurred to you by now that these are Enormous Numbers of voters not voting one time or the other in both parties.
Part of the difference is there are several million more voters interested only in the Presidential races than there are voters interested in Congressional races.
Not only are these enormous numbers they are greater than all of the third party voters put together! To a degree the drop-off numbers are greater than the number of voters altogether for decades in the memory of folks in their 50s and 60s!
So, a vanity post on this idea? Really ~ I think we need a new category so we can associate all of our threads about party organization, reorganization, restructuring, and so forth ~ for easy reference.
I'm thinking of writing a brief book on this ~ shorter than Conscience of a Conservative, but I will refresh every body's memory of his most astounding observation about the geometry of American political thought. Maybe Mark or Laz can get me a publisher.
I’ve been noticing your intelligent knowledge of history and events for some time now. I would read your book. LS is a writer with published books. Check with him.
As for a “daily” thread on this. I think that Jim commented on one of your posts on this thread. Sounds like he would be in favor of it. Ask him.
I can see things that need to be done, and done now, but it is going to have to be the younger people who do it. I’m too old now for that much activity. Our local Tea Party is about the extent of my political activism. We just got our leader elected as State Delegate for our district. Former Marine who will make a great delegate.
Keep putting your ideas out here. We need minds like yours to help keep us focused.
God bless
“That we should have two Democrat parties instead the one weve already got???”
Yes.
One thing we have get wrap our brains around is that there is a mighty struggle for the soul of conservatism and those who lead the party going on.
Frankly, I hope Schmidt, Wallace, Rove, Morris, and the rest of the FNC contributors, even Coulter, are dumped.
Not only do we need fresh new faces as candidates, but we need fresh new faces as consultants.
This past election proved that. It was an epic fail!
Got a Scripture reference for that?
Also, what kind of salvation are you talking about? Are you suggesting people who don't exercise their right to vote and/or choose to leave the affairs of this world to the citizens of this world are missing out on something?
We need to stop devouring ourselves and go after the Marxists in control, along with their Marxist media-in-tow. We definitely need to steer right and call the regime and the media out and stop worrying what the 'protected classes' will think. Every time the left calls us 'racist' for accusing them of lying, we need to fire right back ten times harder and pull the media into the charge right along with them.
The only TOUGH person I saw on TV today was Kelly Ayotte. We need to man up and go on the attack if we're going to save Uncle Sam from certain death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM
Strange that this is the ONLY YouTube video posted by CentralPavote (a lefty talk radio guy) (Central Pennsylvania Vote). I wonder who he's working for? He posted this video early on election day.. Who knows, maybe the originator of this video was testing his voter fraud software before the polls opened and wanted to post a video showing the OPPOSITE OF WHAT ACTUALLY happened in this election, to garner sympathy for 0bama and to steal the thunder from any Republicans making the same charge.. How Alinsky-esque huh?
>>I keep hearing or reading this obvious lie about how the Republicans have gone to the extreme right when they have done the exact opposite.
Exactly.
>>I am not an expert on Communist techniques but telling extraordinary lies with a straight face must be one of them.
Congratulations. You are now an expert!
BUMP!!
>> the RINOs should go home to the Democrat Party
You are spot on.
The only reason I would not want to split the Republican Party is the fear of losing to the Dems. But if we are going to lose anyway or win with Dem lite candidates, then we might as well go down fighting instead of the long, slow, painful slide as we morph into Democrats.
I attended a lecture by Herman Cain tonight at Kansas State University. He was asked why Romney lost. Interestingly, he said there was effectively no outreach by the Romney people to any minority groups (and he specifically mentioned Hispanics).
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