Posted on 11/09/2012 9:20:27 AM PST by carlo3b
JUST HOW FAR ARE WE WILLING TO GO?
I SAY, LETS JUMP OFF THE CLIFF!
I know, I remember what our Mothers told us about, If your idiot friend jumped off the Cliff, would you follow? As it turned out she was mostly right, but not always, not NOW, not this time.. I'm suggesting that our Mothers are sometimes just flat out wrong.. Most women, Not your Mother of course, but at least 56% of women elected Obama, twice, so they aren't always right..
This is the real truth telling moment in our Nation's present and future.. We were handed our collective ASS in this debacle of an election.. The Liberals put it all on the line to get this man back into the White House to finish what he started, and what the Liberals/Communists started almost a century ago..
THE REAL PROBLEM!
We are weakened because we didn't stop the thief of this process when we allowed all of those cute sounding seemingly innocuous rule changing election laws, Motor Voter, Absentee Voting, Early Voting, and Extending Hours..
We spread out the security protection and limited the oversight of the one thing that insures that this great nation is a Nation of Laws, dictated by WE The People, and placed the Elected Representative form of governance in the hands of corruptible politicians and influential unelected bureaucrats..
We lost because we follow the laws, and they don't..
We are at the mercy of the will of the people.. We believe that TRUTH will out.. That our ideas are sound and that most people will recognize what will hurt them, and that they will stop policies that are wrong will become obvious, and that those expounding wrongheaded laws will be shunned in the next election..
That dog no longer hunts.. Much of what is wrong with this country is it's people! I could spend the next ten days giving examples of why the people do what they do, but you are as aware of those problems as I am.. Education, Immigration, Entitlements, yada, yada, yada..
THE SOLUTION IS HERE NOW!
I am a problem solver, not a brainiac, or a prognosticator, or even smart.. I live in a real world, and started businesses that succeeded, lots of them.. When I decided years ago, whether I should go to college, I checked my reality, and recognized that I was poor, so I started out as an Entrepreneur..
I like most of you look at life and respond with the cards that we are dealt.. First lesson is that when you see that something being done is wrong, STOP IT! When someone is Bleeding, STOP THE BLEEDING, Fast..
Almost all of our problems in this country is from spending.. We allowed the spending to get way out of control, and we put into law, spending that has become so endemic that we are at a lose to stop it.. NOT TRUE!
If we STOP THE MONEY, it all has to stop, right? That too is NOT TRUE! We have all learned to borrow, and most of us also learned that it can, and often gets out of control..
THE FISCAL CLIFF IS THE TOURNIQUET OF GOVERNMENT!
All of the elements of what is wrong with the Government is coming together at the same time.. YES, THAT IS TRUE! It stops the flow of money at once.. It also stops the borrowing if the congress has not given it the authority to raise the DEBT LIMIT! BINGO, everything has to change if that happens.. Government has to trim, drastically reduce spending, eliminate programs, or SHUT DOWN!
We all agree that the politicians, Forget about US, will not allow their jobs to stop paying THEM! But we also know that few if any will put their own career on the line for something so noble as saving our Country.. But we just learned a lesson, that we will never win another election now that the Liberals have all of the strings in place to steal every election in the future..
We do not have any other power but to stop something from happening, not move any legislation that will encumber the left from their power.. If we can convince our fat cat politicians that in 2 short years that we will kick their asses out of the cushy seats they might, just might, decide to take the gamble and SHUT IT DOWN, if only to save their own butt..
What if they shut it all down, it's a stretch, but what if? The Markets will tank, for a shot time only.. Banks will threaten to shut down under the RUN ON THE BANK theory.. Hundreds of thousands of government employees are going to start getting pink slips, and foreign markets begin to crumble their own weight, without us to prop them up.. Your own paychecks may be in jeopardy..
HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO RISK..?????
I thought we already this, "don't pass Obamacare or else" ... that didn't quite work out, did it?
We can threaten all we want, once they pass it we are screwed anyways. Also, how many people will do this? A few hundred? That won't quite bring the GOP to it's knees.
I couldn’t argue with anything you said.. I just suggest that we at least try to pressure them at this moment, because it isn’t going to get any better.. Thanks for that link.. Good Stuff!
Raise it or not raise it,
America’s credit rating will be decreased.
I don't quit so easy, if you never try, you are sure to go belly up, I come from a bit heftier stock than that....
It's a start, I admit. But this should be part of a full on assault. Like if everyone decides to take all their money out of the banks at once, not spend a single penny for a week, etc.
Something major needs to happen and quick.
LOL!
Nice “Airplane!” reference. I had the same thought.
That is a plan, so much better than wimping out wringing your hands.. GREAT IDEA! KEEP EM COMING.. LOL
that’s the way i vote.
let’s do it
Thank You ... We only have to convince about 200 Representatives in the House. Wonder if it’s possible?
To tell the truth the number maybe is much lower. Say about forty.
Just make sure you have a parachute.
If 'Congress' includes the House AND Senate, then, that's a damned good idea!
Let the dims run it off the cliff, after explaining what MUST be done to reverse it.
Sounds like a plan ......................................................... FRegards
Gonzo my main man.. Long time no see my FRiend.. I agree that the Dems would be stuck with the entire mess, because it is their mess..
Look folks am not intelligent enough to figure all the ins and outs on a plan like this. Lazamataz said we could wind up with less freedom not more. I think Laz has a valid point. Would appreciate your input (from each of you, please). Each of you has been here longer than me. I request, if you can and will share, your knowledge. There is much I have no idea about. It helps to hear all sides. Thanks, gonzo, for your support.
I’ve been reading a bunch of threads recommending something like you’re discussing. Basically, letting it go off the cliff, going Galt, shutting down, etc.
While I find the idea appealing in a certain way (darkest before the dawn and all that).
My only apprehension is what our foreign enemies might do. Would the Chinese or Russians see their opportunity to muscle in? Would sharia break out in certain areas? Would the drug cartels (who already have a great “ground game” in place) take over blocks and blocks of major cities?
True. But I’m thinking it would be on a way larger scale than now.
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