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America's coming civil war -- makers vs. takers
Fox News ^ | Published July 12, 2012 | Arthur Herman

Posted on 11/07/2012 3:51:00 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

“A house divided against itself cannot stand.”

Abe Lincoln used those words in 1858 to describe a country that was careening toward civil war. Now we’re a house divided again and another civil war is coming, with the 2012 election as its Gettysburg.

Call it America’s coming civil war between the Makers and the Takers.

On one side are those who create wealth, America’s private sector–the very ones targeted by President Obama’s tax hikes announced Monday.

On the other are the public employee unions; left-leaning intelligentsia who see the growth of government as index of progress; and the millions of Americans now dependent on government through a growing network of government transfer payments, from Medicaid and Social Security to college loans and corporate bailouts and handouts (think GM and Solyndra).

Over the past century America’s private sector has been the source of productivity, innovation, creativity, and growth–and gave us the iPhone and iPad. The public sector has been the engine of entitlement, stagnation, and decline -- and gave us Detroit and the South Bronx.

The private sector built the strongest economy in the world. It armed the free world in World War Two, and then in the three decades after the war turned America into the most prosperous society history had ever seen. It revived America in the Reagan and Clinton years, and thanks to the Bush tax cuts brought this country back from economic collapse after 9/11.

In those same years a growing public sector, by contrast, turned Europe into a cesspool of debt, stalled economies, and chronic social dysfunction that’s set the streets of Athens -- and perhaps other European capitals--on fire.

That’s where we’re headed, too, more rapidly than we like to think.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; civilwar; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberals; obama; obamavoters; progressives; shtf; socialism; socialistdemocrats; tyranny; waronliberty; welfarestate
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To: Jack Black
One of his predictions is that if civil war breaks out in will inevitably turn into fighting along ethnic lines.

No doubt. Prison populations self-segregate along racial lines. Prison is similar to war insofar as violence can erupt at any time, so people are always wary and form defensive bonds.

221 posted on 11/12/2012 10:27:31 AM PST by matt1234
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To: Travis McGee
.so how much food do they grow inside the beltways?

"Lots" (hah) ... in their "community gardens". Which I have seen ... unattended, in disrepair, with food rotting on the ground beneath the plants.

But they're Oh! so proud of them, and get them written up in the newspaper and shown on TV.

The recent meteorological catastrophes in New York and New Jersey are a warning and an example ... for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

222 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:01 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Maybe.

It will be like the Swiss or Finnish civil war if it comes.


223 posted on 11/12/2012 11:21:53 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
How many in our military want to fight Americans to uphold tyranny?

They will follow orders. That is what they are trained to do. Don't think otherwise. And there is a significant portion of the military that is Hispanic. They will have little to no feeling about blowing up North Dakota.

224 posted on 11/12/2012 11:41:43 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: FredZarguna
"It is THE MAJOR industry in PA, VT, OH, WI, CA, ... "

Yes, except that there is no food in blue Wisconsin. Like many states, it is the big city centers, in our case greater Milwaukee and Madison areas, that vote for communism. Those of use outside of those areas arent the ones supporting it.

225 posted on 11/12/2012 12:13:55 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

Don’t forget that even in the “taker” states like Pennsylvania, there are vast swaths of the state populated by makers. In the western half of our commonwealth, there are only two taker counties. In the western three quarters, there are only three. Every other taker county is clustered along the eastern border.


226 posted on 11/12/2012 12:46:05 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: gnarledmaw
That's right. There's no food in blue PA, OH, or NY, either. There probably is some in blue CA (although you might be surprised) and I know there is some in blue VT.

Maybe that's what Carlin was talking about with his "no blue food," routine of forty years ago.

That's why I said I'm not sure the country would necessary secede along state lines. More like 95% of a (Red) USA, with a (Blue) CSA in Coastal strips along both coasts, The Great Lakes, and the Ohio, Columbia, and Mississippi Rivers.

Madison will have to stay with the USA. We'll wall it off and put them on display.

227 posted on 11/12/2012 12:58:04 PM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Very true. Penn., Va. Wash, NV. Ill., Fl., OH., IA. and even Ca.
Get away from the big cities and one will find where the makers live.


228 posted on 11/12/2012 3:50:48 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: DuncanWaring; Travis McGee; Jack Black
Rare to see all three Keepers of the List on the same thread.

Not good.

I hope it means we're all three paying attention. Which may be a good thing, though the need for it is not.

229 posted on 11/12/2012 4:00:08 PM PST by archy
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