Posted on 09/11/2012 12:21:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
This November, voters in Colorado, Oregon, and Washington will consider ballot measures to legalize and regulate marijuana, much as alcohol and tobacco are taxed and regulated. In this first in a series of "one minute debates" for election 2012, three writers give their brief take on the issue.
The 'yes' case is argued by Paul Armentano, deputy director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML). The 'no' position is offered by David G. Evans, a special adviser to the Drug Free America Foundation. And a middle path is suggested by Kevin A. Sabet, who has worked on drug policy under three presidents of both parties.
(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...
Another statist fool heard from.
Alcohol is close to fully legal, but it is easy to control, Scotch and Whiskey come from places, and has to be bottled and transported it doesn’t get produced in my garden, or by my front door, or in the big pot on the patio.
I can grow great pot five feet from where I am sitting right now, or even in this very room.
Once pot is legal, and the seeds are being scattered everywhere, and the plants grown everywhere, there won’t be attempts to do testing on the source of your grass, it will just become legal.
““the drug alcohol” did not and does not create alcoholism...”
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Wow. Just Wow! The fail is strong on that comment.
Well my liberal friends.. I’ve got a doctors appointment to keep. I’m having a lot of fun - but I must go for now. I’ll be back in a couple of hours to see what other liberal claptarppings are being posted here.
MM patients are allowed to grow their own, yet they still pay $300/oz and more in sufficient numbers to generate $100M in tax revenue. That's a real world example, which trumps your speculations.
So...God speaks through his prophet R2!
Let us all bow down before the holy prophet’s wisdom.
/sarc
“““the drug alcohol” did not and does not create alcoholism...”
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Wow. Just Wow! The fail is strong on that comment.”
I don’t understand the fail here... it is like saying guns create murder. Or maybe I am missing the point. Some of the other comments made involve the control or lack thereof of pot, which I think is the point exactly....we are under a gov trying to control too much.
Absolutely I do. You make perfect examples of companies turning ligament working for society rather then against it.
You and I will not buy their product and that is exactly how it should be. Capitalism I love it
Now go away socialist. I'm serious why are you trolling here?
DU Troll!
The problem with detecting pot use by test is that it stays in your system so much longer than it makes you high. You can tell via urine if somebody smoked pot in the last month, via hair sample for the entire time they’ve had that hair follicle, but are they high right now... That’s the “magic” from a law enforcement perspective of alcohol, when it’s in your blood it’s effecting you when it’s not it’s not, doesn’t have much in the way of non-buzz making traces.
It is trolls that go on a thread with nothing more than a personal attack.
You know that FR does not care for that kind of trolling.
Not exactly sure this is an accurate analogy. The drug cartel employs A LOT of muscle; greed and corruption are abundant - thus, an almost obscene amount of profit is demanded to remain fiscally viable. Those bodyguards, automatic weapons, defending your produduction, enforcing your "territory" and killing your competition - are all expensive operations.
Once legalized, a plant that is little more than a weed, has very little profit built into it. It requires minimal talent to grow, and the business model will not tolerate the profitability it enjoys now. Bottom line: The economic market of marijuana will collapse, quickly and almost immediately upon legalization.
Alaska had legalized pot for years; yet the horrors you imagine did not occur. Why?
For many, it's a principle of small goverment that is tantamount. I don't smoke, never did smoke and very likely never will smoke. Why? I'm an engineer, I earn my living by using my brain; if I dimminish my mental aptitude, I dimminish my livelihood.
I'm all for small goverment, you are for a larger goverment. I feel people have the God-given right to be idiots; you feel that you need to govern and decide what is right "for them", because for some reason, you are "smarter" than they are.
Me, I don't care if you smoke, I don't care if you don't. You live your life in the best way that you can, you make the decisions about how you are living your life - and as long as you don't negatively impact the lives of those around you - what you do, is your business. Pretty simple stuff.
Goo lord, what a crock, good pot and better pot, we all know about that, and growing good pot is easy.
Have you ever been close to the process?
So where is the problem? If you smoke what you grow, it's up to you to do whatever quality control you want; it'll still be as illegal for an individual grower to sell or gift bad weed, just like it's illegal to distribute tainted Halloween treats; and many consumers will be willing to pay a premium to get corporate-grown weed with the attendent resources and incentives for quality control.
I didn't think so.
Thanks for answering for me but I'm capable of doing so. That said, I don't have anything against capitalism and/or Anheuser Busch & Jim Beam (other than their crappy products). Do you?
Winning by not surrendering.
Victory = not surrendering? That's a good one.
But the alternative to surrendering in the WOT or the WOD is unthinkable.
Adults free to put in their own bodies whatever they want? No, you're right. We need Big Government to protect us from that.
Blunt, but accurate. She used to have the tag that said "As a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS MY BUSINESS".
She seems to want Gov't control over every aspect of our lives - and she believes that somehow this qualifies her to be the arbitrator of who is a Conservative, and who is not. She doesn't see the difference between Liberalism and Libertarianism - to her, they are equivalent concepts.
The process isn’t the same, you can grow tobacco, but that is a long way from creating a Marlboro.
Pot on the other hand is to get high off of, and doesn’t need anything more than being able to be smoked from a toilet paper roll with a hole in it and some tin foil.
Some here have seen joints made of a 2 page wide spread of newspaper, an inch and a half in diameter and being 3 feet long, that kind of thing makes pot heads happy, but it wouldn’t replace a Marlboro to a cigarette smoker.
We surrendered in the War On Alcohol - were the results "unthinkable"?
Sorry all the crock is you. Yeah I’ve done the process, and I’ve seen it done right. Doing it right is hard and I just showed you the proof. You can deny it if you want but now that you’ve been shown that what you’re saying is false continuing down that path is lying. You’re wrong, the links prove it.
One male pot plant can air fertilize over many miles - resulting in a seed heavy mature female that is about useless for smoking. And because the male growing wild is selecting for different traits than the cultivated varieties, the seeds will no doubt be about useless as well.
There is a reason they call it “Alabama dirtweed”.
Church Attendance per capita hit an all time high.
Admissions to mental hospitals per capita hit an all time low.
We're getting none of those from our decades-old War On Drugs.
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