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Obama lawyer warned against certifying eligibility
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Posted on 09/03/2012 7:39:43 PM PDT by tsowellfan

'For any party official to do so would be to perjure him or herself'

A former U.S. Justice Department attorney who founded the government watchdog Judicial Watch and later Freedom Watch has warned a key Barack Obama attorney that Democrat Party or state elections officials certifying Obama’s eligibility for the 2012 election could become the targets of election-fraud charges.

The letter from Larry Klayman explains that’s because those officials simply cannot know Obama’s eligibility for sure, and the law doesn’t allow them to make assumptions.

In his letter to Robert Bauer, general counsel to the Democratic National Committee, Klayman explained that the evidence shows no one knows for sure about Obama’s eligibility, so letters from the DNC to states about Obama’s 2012 candidacy may be problematic.

“There is therefore no longer any state or national official in the Democratic Party who can escape legal responsibility for ignoring the proof herein provided, and a plea of ignorance of the facts will no longer be possible...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; dnc; eligibility; larryklayman; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama
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To: Dogbert41
I don't think the lack of pursuit is about testosterone. It's simply that nobody wants to see a constitutional crisis. Just imagine what it would be like if the evidence was given credibility...it would be a true s**t storm.

Everyone is biding their time. When Obama finally has no power you will see the system quietly go into hyper-drive to keep this from happening again. The law will be strengthened to make clear what “natural born citizen” means. They won't pursue the original meaning, they will dilute it so it fits retroactively as well as being clear for future candidates. Being born in the U.S. will be sufficient, both parents will not need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth. Weakening it is not good, but it's much better than the existing ambiguity that risks a constitutional crisis.

41 posted on 09/03/2012 8:34:54 PM PDT by reardensteel
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To: Windflier

Thanks for this post, Windflier.


42 posted on 09/03/2012 8:34:59 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: butterdezillion
Alvin Onaka confirmed to Ken Bennett that Hawaii does not have a legally-valid birth record for Obama. This changes everything.

Thanks for the quick answer and the links.

43 posted on 09/03/2012 8:35:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tsowellfan
Good! I hope he sends John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid a strong message too.

And what about John Roberts??

44 posted on 09/03/2012 8:36:41 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: butterdezillion
Eric Holder will not always be guarding the henhouse for these people.

Good points you make

45 posted on 09/03/2012 8:37:01 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: Mortrey

I read that the Obamas are not the buying party(s). The lady behind this is named Prichkan(?) who is a billionaire heiress to the Hyatt hotel chain among other assets. Perhaps there are some people knowing this wouldn’t want their money being spent to buy Obama a $35,000,000.00 estate in beautiful but crooked Hawaii.


46 posted on 09/03/2012 8:40:13 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: reardensteel
I don't think the lack of pursuit is about testosterone. It's simply that nobody wants to see a constitutional crisis.

Yep.

Everything Americans hold dear can be destroyed, as long as it avoids a Constitutional crisis.

47 posted on 09/03/2012 8:40:13 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1323 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: fella; Truth is a Weapon

Look at the panic Romney generated by even mentioning “I was born here” — man that struck a nerve. Of course he & Ryan should print out and circulate their respective birth certificates.


48 posted on 09/03/2012 8:42:24 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Mortrey

Re: post 38. You’re most welcome.


49 posted on 09/03/2012 8:44:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Dogbert41

And that’s why BarryBoy will win again in this election.


50 posted on 09/03/2012 8:51:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: noinfringers2

Yes, you’re right. Penny Pritcher is begging $$$ for Barry.
Not surprising because the “Bath-House Barrys” don’t seem to be the owners of “their” home in Chicago——seems that house-5046 Greenwood Ave., is owned jointly by Jayne Stuart-Circuit Court judge in Cook County AND Barry’s accountant, Larry Weinberg.
That house has 6 or 7 PIN numbers when it should only have 1, which seems to suggest Real Estate Fraud. (big surprise)

Of course, for the record, this is just “rumor”.


51 posted on 09/03/2012 8:53:59 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: tsowellfan; butterdezillion; Red Steel; null and void; LucyT
Here is a comment to the WND article by a person who appears to be a big-time Fogblower claiming that “full faith and credit” has been given the Onaka non-verification verification in the federal court system as of now:

begin comment (commenter) thepaidtroll

@JOHNNYX67

Are you suggesting that there is some US law that requires Obama to submit any more then he has submitted to US Courts or US Secretaries of State?

If that is what you are suggesting then I am afraid that you are sadly mistaken my friend.

In fact, thanks to Orly Taitz, request for sanctions against the DNC the letter submitted to Arizona by the Hawaii SOS attesting that Obama was born in Hawaii has been given an exception to the hearsay rule and is now part of the Federal Court record and has been given full faith and credit by the Federal court system.

Klayman is pulling your chain my friend, he has no viable case.

You the people should just reconcile yourselves to the fact that Obama will be declared the Democratic Nominee, hence, after the declaration your almost non existent chance of keeping him out of the race will then become legally impossible for reasons too numerous to list in this comment. end comment

52 posted on 09/03/2012 8:57:43 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Onaka never verified that Obama was born in Hawaii. He was asked on a verification application to verify that Obama was born in Honolulu on the island of Oahu and he did not verify either of those items - even though the law required him to do so if he could certify that the birth really happened that way.

He verified that they have a (legally non-valid) birth record that CLAIMS (indicates) that Obama was born in Hawaii, but that’s a totally different thing.

MDEC should get their a$$es handed to them, legally speaking - because they knew darned good and well that Onaka had not verified any actual facts. If they thought Onaka had truly verified Obama’s birth facts as true, they would have submitted a standard application and expected Onaka to verify those facts. They didn’t do that, though - because they knew Onaka COULDN’T verify any birth facts.

And it was the MDEC filing in that Orly Taitz lawsuit that made me realize that I had it right. Even Obama’s supporting lawyers understood what Onaka had really done in that verification.


53 posted on 09/03/2012 9:11:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: tsowellfan; All

Excuse me .. warning those in Congress is like saying to a battering husband .. I’m going to call the police on you.

Only a person who has a death wish does that ..!!

And .. how many women end up dead because they were more interested in threatening the batterer than they were in protecting themselves ..????

I would never say anything to anybody until it’s time for the police to show up and arrest somebody. A silent raid at the person’s home .. probably would be more appropriate.


54 posted on 09/03/2012 9:14:34 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: butterdezillion

What ..?? When did this happen .. “no legal birth certificate in Hawaii” ..?? I thought the birth certificates that have been presented CAME FROM HAWAII ..?? and .. the Gov of Hawaii guaranteed it .. or something like that ..!!

I know I’ve been a little busy lately .. what with retiring and writing books, but this is really BIG news .. and why have I not heard of any of this ..??

Who is “Onaka” ..??


55 posted on 09/03/2012 9:19:25 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: tsowellfan
B-)

56 posted on 09/03/2012 9:24:46 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: rovenstinez

We sure seem to be ruled by liars(lawyers) who are tyrants.


57 posted on 09/03/2012 9:25:39 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: reardensteel

The original meaning is FINE.

How about if we require people to show their birth certificate before running for office. They have to show a lot of other stuff .. tax records, financial records, etc., as well as proving they have no criminal records.


58 posted on 09/03/2012 9:26:52 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Only in your dreams .. jackyboy!!


59 posted on 09/03/2012 9:29:28 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: CyberAnt
OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES
60 posted on 09/03/2012 9:31:28 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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