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Men, Who Needs Them? (New York Times Editorial)
New York Times ^ | August 24, 2012 | GREG HAMPIKIAN

Posted on 08/29/2012 11:23:17 AM PDT by nickcarraway

MAMMALS are named after their defining characteristic, the glands capable of sustaining a life for years after birth — glands that are functional only in the female. And yet while the term “mammal” is based on an objective analysis of shared traits, the genus name for human beings, Homo, reflects an 18th-century masculine bias in science.

That bias, however, is becoming harder to sustain, as men become less relevant to both reproduction and parenting. Women aren’t just becoming men’s equals. It’s increasingly clear that “mankind” itself is a gross misnomer: an uninterrupted, intimate and essential maternal connection defines our species.

The central behaviors of mammals revolve around how we bear and raise our young, and humans are the parenting champions of the class. In the United States, for nearly 20 percent of our life span we are considered the legal responsibility of our parents.

With expanding reproductive choices, we can expect to see more women choose to reproduce without men entirely. Fortunately, the data for children raised by only females is encouraging. As the Princeton sociologist Sara S. McLanahan has shown, poverty is what hurts children, not the number or gender of parents.

That’s good, since women are both necessary and sufficient for reproduction, and men are neither. From the production of the first cell (egg) to the development of the fetus and the birth and breast-feeding of the child, fathers can be absent. They can be at work, at home, in prison or at war, living or dead.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: genderwars; genetics; men; misandry; newyorktimes; radicalleft; science; selfhatred; waronmen; women
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To: manc
eat a steak and you putting up that photo and saying I can lift more made me laugh anyway.

I eat plenty of steak and chicken/fish every day..3500-3800 calories per day. After you lift unless you get protein BCAA's in your system within 10-15 minutes your body burns muscle like a blast furnace...that is what the protein powders are for. ..quick acting within 10 minutes or less. Steak takes hours.

Every body builder uses them daily.

121 posted on 08/29/2012 2:46:41 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: defconw

Off topic...You and I do have something in common....


122 posted on 08/29/2012 2:49:13 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: defconw

so did I LOL.


123 posted on 08/29/2012 2:51:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: trailhkr1

I’m winding you up.

Look to be serious, if you and your girl enjoy each other then all the best.
I couldn’t careless if you prance around pushing a dumbell in your spandex in front of your girl, all power to you.

and if you are taking in 3800 cals a day then you better burn it off as your girl won;t like you in your spandex anymore.

Its a joke


124 posted on 08/29/2012 2:54:28 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: trailhkr1

OK, what?


125 posted on 08/29/2012 2:54:48 PM PDT by defconw (IT'S ON NOW! ROMNEY/RYAN 2012)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I might sound crazy, but to me, a lot of young men these days actually LOOK more feminine.

Hm, interesting; and some have commented much the same. (though not on this thread)
I wish I could say that my physical appearance would be a counter-example, but it's not: I can't really grow facial hair but on my chin [goatee area] and a bit of a mustache. (It is, apparently, from my grand-pa's Cherokee heritage.) That, and I'm a bit on the scrawny/thin side.

126 posted on 08/29/2012 2:56:29 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nickcarraway; All
And to think I was mocked for suggesting there is a gender war: a war on men.

From male circumcision to failed education policy, from courts that dismiss paternity as a requirement to pay child support to a social safety net that excludes men, from scripted media endlessly mocking husbands and fathers to exclusive emphasis on "women's health" in spite of their increased longevity. We have a misandrous war on men, no longer a noble effort to reach "equality."

127 posted on 08/29/2012 2:57:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 69 days away.)
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To: manc
Don't wear spandex in the gym..only biking..

I burn off 3800 every day and I'm at 8.5-9% body fat.

128 posted on 08/29/2012 3:00:43 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: OneWingedShark

if you can;t grow hair on much of the face you’re lucky.

In the miltiary I had to shave twie and it ripped my skin apart, shaving rash all the time and it sucked.
I;m not in now so I grow stubble and only shave twice a week but liek I said you are lucky I wish I did not have to shave as much as I do


129 posted on 08/29/2012 3:01:35 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: trailhkr1

don’t give a crap if you wear a thong in the gym so long as I;m not there, not that I would probably be in the same gym as you.

Why would you tell me this, we’re having a laugh, don;t be so serious or defensive


130 posted on 08/29/2012 3:03:34 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: factoryrat
Genetic engineering IS now a part of our own natural selection. Just like tools, boats, mathematics, etc shaped the evolution of man in prehistory. For example, man was smart enough to tame fire for cooking which led to the massive expansion of our brains.

Yes, it does take two sets of human DNA to produce a unique offspring but those two humans need NOT be of the opposite sex when genetic engineering is used. In fact, the DNA of two males can be joined in a lab and produce a female egg. Female DNA can only result in female eggs.

Also, it IS possible for humans to reproduce 100% asexually with genetic engineering (aka cloning). Asexual meaning only one individual’s DNA is used. It is possible for a female to give birth to a copy of herself...

131 posted on 08/29/2012 3:05:11 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I would suggest to you that this may already have happened in secret.


132 posted on 08/29/2012 3:05:39 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: OneWingedShark

Well it’s good to know it’s not just me. I’m sure you are fine....men don’t have to be bruisers, but it just seems to me they have a peculiarly feminine, or almost feminine look that’s new to me.


133 posted on 08/29/2012 3:07:00 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: manc
if you can't grow hair on much of the face you’re lucky.

In the miltiary I had to shave twie and it ripped my skin apart, shaving rash all the time and it sucked.

Yeah, it was nice that I only needed to shave once or twice a week when I was enlisted. :)
I can empathize with you on finding shaving painful/uncomfortable though: it makes my face hurt to shave every day.

I'm not in now so I grow stubble and only shave twice a week but like I said you are lucky I wish I did not have to shave as much as I do

Yep; I'm not in anymore so I only touch up my goatee by getting rid of the scraggly patches every month or so.

134 posted on 08/29/2012 3:11:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

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When my boys ask me what was the worst thing about the military I always tell them shaving every day it sucked.
I’ve been in combat , scrubbed floors and done a load of B/S ordered off the officer but shaving I hated


135 posted on 08/29/2012 3:19:06 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DuncanWaring
Ironically the feminist flunkie Sara McLanahan has an old piece in the lefty rag "American Prospect" in which she asserts that children of single families suffer "measurable harm."

Guess this misplaced Idaho metrosexual will have to dig a little further next time.

136 posted on 08/29/2012 5:10:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: nickcarraway

They totally gloss over the importance of kids learning how men and women get along, or the times they don’t and how they work through it, how people learn to interact, and learn what normal behavior is. Not to mention they learn how to imprint themselves into a proper gender identity. Or in common sense language, boys learn how to be men that can interact with others, and girls learn how to be women and interact from that frame of reference.

Because they don’t see any value in it of course it’s stupid we would even say they’re overlooking a huge necessary thing.

Basically the article is saying you’re an idiot if you think the nuclear family is necessary. I say look at the last 50 years of the left dismantling the nuclear family and the results. Look at black families and see just how super they are doing without strong male role models in the daily lives of kids.


137 posted on 08/29/2012 5:49:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: trailhkr1

Good for her. Though I wonder what she thinks about the way they’re treating her with kid gloves.

If you’re going to insist on ‘equality’ in sports, it means that you have to be equally vulnerable to the rougher side. Otherwise it’s just patronizing.


138 posted on 08/30/2012 12:06:10 AM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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