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GOP Rules Committee Rapidly Moving to Shut Out Grassroots at 2:00 p.m. Today (It's not over)
RedState ^ | Tuesday August 28, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/28/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

At 2:00 p.m. today in Tampa, the Republican National Committee, led by Team Romney, is moving to shut down conservative grassroots activists. I’ve been on the phone with several individuals involved in the fight who tell me that the fight is not over, it is only just starting.

Specifically, the media is reporting that the rules fight is over because Team Romney is abandoning Ben Ginsberg’s effort to allow candidates to control delegates. Under an initial proposal, delegates would, in effect, be chosen by the presumed nominee’s campaign and not based on votes in the states and delegate selection processes in the states.

That issue appears resolved, but several people I’ve spoken to this morning make clear that Team Romney and the RNC establishment are using that compromise as a red herring to distract from two major rules change proposals that would decimate Republican grassroots and prevent upstart political campaigns.

Reports that the floor fight threat is over might be designed to calm the grassroots and get them to ignore what is coming at 2 o’clock.

The first rule to be proposed is one that would give the Republican National Committee the power to change rules between conventions with a three-quarters vote of the RNC. One source tells me, “With a Republican President, of course this is doable. Everybody will roll over if a President Romney asks them too. They’ll be able to get Ben Ginsberg’s proposal next year.”

In other words, if Team Romney prevails in this rules change, they don’t have to worry about Ben Ginsberg not getting his way today on the delegate changes. They’ll be able to do it later when the press and grassroots are not watching.

The second rules change would front load winner takes all primaries.

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Eva

“So you’re saying that the Paulites proposed these rule changes to the Rules Committee? Is that what you’re saying?”

I think this loyal comrade is asking “Who killed Kirov?”.

Revanchist Paulite wreckers and saboteurs is the correct answer. Their numbers are vast, and they are an imminent threat to the State!


321 posted on 08/28/2012 2:23:16 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Eva

“Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.”

It has also been translated as, “I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.”

Still waiting on a reason to support the party of TARP, Medicare-D, No Child Left Behind, McCain Feingold, OSHA, the EPA and countless other big govt initiatives.


322 posted on 08/28/2012 2:24:23 PM PDT by yantis
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To: Mama_Bear; Jim Robinson; WVNan

Mam-Bear - LOL. New name!
(I apologize!) Typing again without my reading glasses!


323 posted on 08/28/2012 2:24:23 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They were threatening a floor battle over the nomination.

What they do is keep raising objections and proposing amendments, forcing vote after vote, dragging out the whole convention into the wee hours of the night, until people get bored and go home, unless someone puts a stop to it.

That was the plan for this convention. It would have been the first time that they tried it at the national convention, but we have seen it at the state conventions. We have had Libertarian delegates who had to be removed from the floor.

Our local GOP limited the debate in the last convention by proposing a very vague, short platform that couldn’t get picked apart.


324 posted on 08/28/2012 2:25:23 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Psalm 144

“I bet part of the Rove Agenda includes the removal of Texas from the United States.”

“Good! I hope he succeeds. Of course, that means I need to move back to Texas when that happens.”

When Texas joined the union, we kept the right to secede whenever we wanted. We don’t have to ask anyone, we can just do it.

If they want us out, hurry in before we put up the wall between us and other states - and that means we put a wall up between Texas and Mexico, too!

Romney will get cold fast when he doesn’t get the heating oil we send to the northeast.


325 posted on 08/28/2012 2:25:49 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: All

What is the exact wording of this rule 12? I’d say before we get too worked up about it, based on what others say it says, we should all look at it ourselves. I’m somewhat limited right now, but will continue to look for it myself (I’m stuck surfing on my iPhone).

But for example, from what I briefly saw before (earlier in the day) it (rule 12) says 75% of the RNC must agree to any changes in off convention years. Now, I’d ask: Does this mean 75% of all in the RNC or 75% of those who respond to a proposed change? The latter could be devastating in off election years when no one is watching but the former would seem to be a high hurdle even given a lot of “back room deals”.

So again, what’s the exact reading of the entire “Rule 12”? Then let’s go from there. Let’s be careful here, this is not a time to go off half cocked.


326 posted on 08/28/2012 2:26:19 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: onyx

“I wouldn’t put anything past the Marxist and his party.”

Either Statist or either party, IMO.


327 posted on 08/28/2012 2:27:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: LibLieSlayer; penelopesire; Jim Robinson

Perfectly stated, dearest LLS!

Consider this your last GOP election.

The S.O.B.s passed the rule, despite more nays than yeahs.

Boehner ruled for the yeahs.

He has to go, which is a major reason we have to have a TEA Party sweep in November!


328 posted on 08/28/2012 2:29:49 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Psalm 144

GO SARAH!

GO TEA Party!


329 posted on 08/28/2012 2:30:41 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm, my friend, you are so right.


330 posted on 08/28/2012 2:37:08 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: FourtySeven

It did say 2/3 vote of the NRC committee, but Melinda Fredericks got that changed yesterday to be 75% in order for a change to happen.

The NRC committee meet regularly in Washington, DC. There is a man and woman from each state on that committee. Ours from Texas take that job very seriously and wouldn’t miss a meeting unless they were on their death bed.


331 posted on 08/28/2012 2:37:19 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Lazamataz
Let's turn this mother out.

Let's roll.

332 posted on 08/28/2012 2:38:10 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: xzins

Thinking about it more, I guess I could see that. I hope they are defeated....haven’t seen much about it since back teaching again so not much time for news.


333 posted on 08/28/2012 2:39:05 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: FourtySeven

It did say 2/3 vote of the NRC committee, but Melinda Fredericks got that changed yesterday to be 75% in order for a change to happen.

The NRC committee meet regularly in Washington, DC. There is a man and woman from each state on that committee. Ours from Texas take that job very seriously and wouldn’t miss a meeting unless they were on their death bed.


334 posted on 08/28/2012 2:40:40 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Hey don’t be so glum chum! JohnBon will surely hold their feet to the fire. /S

Every PDSer, Every person who jumped on the Bash Cain train, Every idiot that slammed newt, despite his imperfections, OWNS THIS.

All the so called Freepers that bashed the hell out of those of us who stuck to principle OWN THIS.

And I hope they choke on it.


335 posted on 08/28/2012 2:40:40 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

*bangs desk* HEAR HEAR.


336 posted on 08/28/2012 2:41:47 PM PDT by yantis
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To: FourtySeven

I agree. I am disappointed, but I frankly think this may be all hysteria for no reason. If it is 75 percent of all, then I don’t see the problem.


337 posted on 08/28/2012 2:50:20 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Eva
We Conservatives do not care about your excuses or trite explanations, or the raping of the rules and in general... your party's progressive crap. You just lost enough of your base to keep the gop a loser party for however long it can survive... my prediction is it will be gone or transformed in 4 years... if America survives.

LLS

338 posted on 08/28/2012 2:51:13 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Keep an eye out for my Freeper Editorial on this topic. If you want, I can put you on the ping list, if you are not already on it.


339 posted on 08/28/2012 2:51:29 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: rwfromkansas

May I remind you that all the people coming into office who owe Mitt a favor for funding and campaigning for them will be the people helping to secure that 75% in coming years?


340 posted on 08/28/2012 2:52:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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