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AKIN WILL WITHDRAW: WHAT HAPPENS NOW? (return of Sarah Steelman?)
Breitbart/Big Government ^ | 8-20-2012 | Mike Flynn

Posted on 08/20/2012 8:56:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: samiam1972; PJ-Comix

Oops! Meant to say not 100% against him staying IN the race.


121 posted on 08/21/2012 7:15:56 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: xsmommy
Ardent prolife conservatives were appalled by what he said.

Do you have some names???

What he inarticulately stated was the reason for the ardent prolife position in the state of Missouri and why he and Ryan fought to change Medicaid rules regarding paying for abortions in the event of rape or incest.

Incidentally a physician at WUMC on the news last night said that pregnancy after a rape is rare.

Should we all get him to resign as well????

122 posted on 08/21/2012 7:17:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: xsmommy

“Ardent prolife conservatives were appalled by what he said.”

I think they are the least that are appalled, I am NOT appalled, the guy is clearly pro life and believes in no exceptions as I did.

Anytime a truly pro life person is quizzed about whether or not they support exceptions for the life of mother (I do not feel well, I am stressed out), or rape or incest, it really is a red herring.

He should not have said that about the body shutting down/legit rape etc (I paraphrase), but his statements certainly did not appall me, seems to be a decent pro life fellow.

I was rooting for Sarah S for full disclosure.

Seems to me most of the left that are “appalled” are really only appalled by the fact that he believes abortion in ALL circumstances is wrong period, they only use the rape comment to vent their real hatred of pro life folks...that`s just how I see it


123 posted on 08/21/2012 7:20:26 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Cyber Liberty

You are correct. Expounding about rape in any context during an election season is playing Russian Roulette with no empty chambers.


124 posted on 08/21/2012 7:24:22 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Uncle Chip

If you cannot see the damage this has done, there’s no convincing you. i am not going to go back through my twitter feed researching the prolife conservatives who tweeted about it because it’s pointless. Did you read about the woman who gave birth to her child conceived in rape? One can laud Akin’s principles and his position on this issue, but it has been LOST in the inferno caused by his ridiculously worded statement. Raise him and his PRINCIPLES UP, by all means and then lose the Senate, possibly the presidency and have Obama in charge of appointing baby killing sup ct justices who can insure that millions more babies are aborted for eons. It’s all about the principles, after all. forget pragmatism, exalt idealism.


125 posted on 08/21/2012 7:25:15 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: jboot
Expounding about rape in any context during an election season is playing Russian Roulette with no empty chambers.

On that we both agree.

126 posted on 08/21/2012 7:27:32 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Friendofgeorge

Prolife conservatives are appalled NOT by the prolife stance behind the comment, but by the moronic statement, which everyone within seconds KNEW was going to cause this brouhaha and hence jeopardize the Senate which to that point had been within reach.


127 posted on 08/21/2012 7:27:50 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: listenhillary

Sad to say, but when our candidate turns out to be an idiot spouting factually inaccurate biology, we walk away. He shot himself in the foot. He blew his chances. As a diehard Republican, I shuddered when I heard what he said. Still cringing I openly stated he needed to withdraw. Sometimes you just can’t fix a stupid remark. This is one.


128 posted on 08/21/2012 7:28:09 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Cyber Liberty

You are denying that men aren’t falsely accused of rape? Or we should just avoiding saying it because it can be made into a political ad and therefore is dangerous ground to tread on?

Who makes these rules? What happens when we decide to control what we say and think to stay in conformance with the rules? Who wins in this this game of “rules”?

Why should it matter when it is said? What if he said it in May?


129 posted on 08/21/2012 7:28:50 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: smoothsailing

The Repubs coming back with a woman (and a good looking one at that), an outsider, and someone even more basically conservative would turn this mess into an advantage.


130 posted on 08/21/2012 7:29:14 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: smoothsailing; Admin Moderator
smoothsailing, this isn't breaking news, this is opinion. Too many people will read the headline (in all-caps no less) and assume he really did withdraw.

No offense, bro

131 posted on 08/21/2012 7:30:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: xsmommy

agreed, I was just offering my 2 cents. Watching CNN/MSNBC go on and on about it is appalling to me, they are being dishonest about what really appalls them, what appalls them is the pro life position.


132 posted on 08/21/2012 7:35:42 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Charles Henrickson

You forgot Margaret Truman. Just kidding :)


133 posted on 08/21/2012 7:37:33 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: listenhillary

It would be great if he said it in May. May of next year.


134 posted on 08/21/2012 7:40:52 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

well i am APPALLEd that you are watching CNN/MSNBC! LOL!! seriously, my husband will occasionally have it on just to see what that side is saying. i do not need to see it, bc it drives me insane to hear it.


135 posted on 08/21/2012 7:41:32 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Charles Henrickson; All; wagglebee; xzins; sickoflibs; MEGoody
23 posted on Mon Aug 20 2012 23:26:33 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Charles Henrickson: “The same could be accomplished by running Ann Wagner. Steelman finished third in the primary, and she is not all that popular in state Republican circles. She hasn't always been a very good team player.”

Rev. Henrickson is right.

I have no personal animosity toward Sarah Steelman. She was my state senator before she was elected Missouri State Treasurer and I've interviewed her a number of times. The problems with Steelman include:

1) She placed third, not second, in the primary.

2) She lost in a nasty Republican primary for governor four years ago, and rightly or wrongly (I think wrongly) she got blamed for being so aggressive that she hurt the eventual Republican nominee and got a Democrat elected.

3) She's antagonized enough Republican Party leaders, not over “tea party” stuff but rather personal animosities, that they're circulating nasty personal rumors about her. Many and perhaps most can't be proven and may well not be true, but it indicates how much she's disliked, and not necessarily for reasons Freepers would appreciate. The problem is that if any of the rumors **DO** prove to be true, they'll torpedo her as a candidate. My guess is the rumors are being circulated precisely for that reason and may have no basis in fact at all, and indicate more about how she's thought of by Jefferson City insiders.

Bottom line — if the Republican Party leadership is looking for a “safe bet,” Steelman probably isn't it, but she does have the major advantages of having significant prior experience in government and being a well-known commodity. Brunner doesn't have either of those and I also have trouble seeing him “get the nod” in a selection made by Republican Party leadership.

I think we're probably looking at an entirely different candidate rather than either Brunner or Steelman if Akin drops out.

136 posted on 08/21/2012 7:42:52 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: PJ-Comix

I’m thinking he’s on a mission to become a martyr, a modern day Joan of Arc.


137 posted on 08/21/2012 7:55:24 AM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: xsmommy

I like to surf the dial in mornings that I am home, find out what the enemy is up to ie Joe Scarborough, he is enemy as far as I can see.

Then when I want to get more annoyed, I am a sucker for punishment, I switch to Sol.. O`brian on CNN, and listen to their phony in house Conservative.

CSPAN is good for a laugh also, Washington Journal, actually get some good Conservatives calling in, hosts are all liberal, but they do manage a few Conservatives on the line, if they can get through past the libs that call in on Conservative line.

Fox and Friends I watch, but once they get through the politics, they move on to jiberish entertainment etc

More than you wanted to know :)


138 posted on 08/21/2012 7:58:58 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: xsmommy

Hi, XS. I had a sick, visceral response the moment I heard Akin utter those comments. His casual, callous remarks about a woman’s response to rape are deeply, deeply offensive to me and rouse an anger in me that I haven’t felt since the days Clinton refused to resign. And I’m about as conservative as they come.

I have the sense that one’s own life experience is the determining factor in how this is viewed as it puzzles me greatly how so many believe this is just an innocent “gaffe”.


139 posted on 08/21/2012 8:03:02 AM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: Friendofgeorge

the only time i find those bearable is when i am watching for the schadenfreude when we are winning like in 2010, and Scott Walker recall election. THAT i enjoy.


140 posted on 08/21/2012 8:03:36 AM PDT by xsmommy
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