Posted on 08/08/2012 4:50:24 PM PDT by EveningStar
Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.
At issue is an article in the respected Small Wars Journal titled “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future.”
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Thanks Hoke. Sorry for the bum link.
And that is why Obummer played Abe Lincoln on the way to the white house. I have thought since then that he will be the P when it happens. But Romney might be the one who issues war against the population orders
I think the brand name of "Republican" has been tarnished. It's country club, not Joe the Plumber. Come 2014 or 2016 or whenever, I don't want to go 3rd party. We need to start finding out whether starting in some local areas the Repub party can be folded away and replaced with the TParty, and whether on a national level we can do the same thing. Then the country club GOP brand would be done with.
“Takes a long time to load....”
Loads great. Ya just need faster Gerbils.
You Must NOT say The Name. No matter how interesting the article. No matter how relevant to current events. Never, ever, ever speak The Name.
Is he a bit of a smuck? Yes.
But last I checked WND articles are accepted, and they can be suffer the credibility test as well.
Gerbils are way to fast for me. Can’t catch the little buggers.
I refer you to Afghanistan and Iraq.
The military would have a SOB of a time “crushing” any domestic uprising. The IRA never numbered more than several hundred. The Brits controlled the whole of northern Ireland with a very professional army. They had the insurgency basically confined to an island where they controlled all approaches. The British fought on for decades, and finally had to negotiate a peace.
1) First, a domestic uprising would only happen after extreme provocation, so people nationwide would already be on edge. The uprising would never happen unless something happened to convince people that all political remedies were futile, and the government would likely start the rebellion with some overt act that went “too far”.
2) a crushing response only spreads the movement.
3) Fighting in Iraq is one thing, doing it on you own logistical tail is quite another.
4) No insurgency would face them force on force. It would be another of those fights seen all around the world involving IEDs, blackmail, ambush, deceit, and military leaders would find their families targeted for kidnap, murder, etc. This recently happened when a Mexican Marine was killed fighting Cartels. They gave him a funeral with honors. Later that night, his mother, sister, and several others were all murdered.
History shows that political leaders who ordered and supported a US military attack on American citizens would also be personal endangered, bribed, blackmailed, and neutralized.
Imagine for example, a drone operator shot dead as he stopped for gas on his way home in Nevada, a thousand miles from the war zone. No military would be safe, anywhere. The crackdown would have to be nationwide, and wouldn’t stay local. The heavy handed actions necessary would anger people who were not involved to begin with. Resentment towards the government grows.
5) Our military uses the USA as a home base. Their bases, supply depots, maintenence activites, factories, air bases etcc are extremely vulnerable and scattered.
6) The Military would have to be extremely concerned about their troops loyalty. Often they will be sypathetic to the uprising. A classic example is found in Russia. When the tanks rolled into Moscow in 1991. They were supposed to crush the pro-Yeltsin crowd. In about a half hour they were hugging the crowd, sharing tea and bread, and started shelling the Russian government building on BEHALF of the crowd.
7) Our military is amazing when used against a foreign enemy. But if it was turned against the American people, here in America, you would quickly see it swallowed up into a nationwide chasm of national disorder. Our military just spent 10 years in Iraq which is about the size of Texas. It was bled white, and most units did 3, 4, or 5 tours.
8) In recent wars, the military could always rest and refit here. They knew their families were safe at home. They knew that in general the nation was behind them. Its a very different animal when none of that is true.
9) The chaos causes extreme business disruptions in our close coupled, just in time economy. This adds pressure to quickly negotiate. Politicians are under unbelievable pressure. The opposition party is seen as an alternative to the one that sparked the insurgency.
There won’t be a Gettysburg in modern insurgency. There will be a nasty insurgency, with a political component that would be as important as the killing wing.
This experience is best left to the imagination.
Good thing too! I was getting ready to threaten to report you to the mods!
A few of us old farts know what "Hoka Hey" means. Personally I'm no Phil Carson, but I don't want to live on my knees.
Travis, that's an idea for a movie, and one with an uplifting conservative message, not the normal leftist Hollywood cr@p.
Good list. Add one more thing: The US military is funded by the promise of US taxpayers. If the US taxpayers stop paying into the fed the military ceases to receive funding and the little credit extended by foreign nations might be zero if they feel the fed won’t win.
I wonder if Obama will execute a pre-emptive strike? Can't be too cautious when it comes to the safety of the nation in the face of domestic terrorism.
In Chile those resisting Allende caused havoc by very simple means, for example dumping tacks and nails on the roads leading into and out of the cities.
I totally agree. The eGOP took it away and we need to take it back.
Actually, I don't need to do much thinking about this, I actually do know most of the folks running these "little think tanks". I'm guessing that you don't, but I promise not to take advantage
I also know some of the real wackos running offices in the White House, DHS, and DoD (civilian, political appointees). These guys should scare your socks off, that's been my reaction. Your concerns are real, you just need to identify the real threat.
“Why troops? they can use drones to selectively kill whomever they want or to blast the whole town.”
And noooobody knows who the drone drivers are, where they are based, where the drones are built and repaired, where the CEO and officers of that company live, etc etc.
It wouldn’t be as one sided as anyone thinks. Seems our military would do well to speak to someone who can tell the stories of the IRA, the Cartels, red brigades in italy, baeder-meinhoff, etc.
Its dangerously flawed thinking to think a few drone shots can take care of a rebellion.
Can you expand on that?
I would like to hear more
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