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James Holmes Massacre First Lawsuit (Man Sues Over "Dark Knight" Shooting)
TMZ.com ^ | 7-24-12 | unknown

Posted on 07/25/2012 9:56:27 PM PDT by Houmatt

One of the victims in the James Holmes mass murder spree has lawyered up and plans to file a lawsuit ... because he feels the theater dropped the ball in a very fatal way.

Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose. One of Brown's best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died. Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.

(Excerpt) Read more at tmz.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: holmes; jamesholmes; lawsuit
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To: Houmatt

As I recall, the exhibitor (the cinema) had the forethought to have extra police on hand for this midnight showing. They said they expected big crowds, so they planned for it.

Those were the cops who managed to collar the guy so quickly, likely saving many more lives.

It’ll be tough to convince a jury that they somehow fell down on their duty to protect their patrons.


41 posted on 07/25/2012 11:24:56 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Houmatt

May I may humbly suggest that the murderer was the person at fault for the murders?


42 posted on 07/25/2012 11:33:16 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Rastus
In the theaters I go to in Texas, they aren’t emergency exits. They’re just exits. One is free to leave the movie through them, and that is often the shorter path to one’s car.

Every theater I have been in is the same way. You are free to use any of the side exits to leave the actual theater (no alarms just EXIT signs on or above the doors). You are not required to leave the theater by going back through the lobby. But you must enter through the front of the theater and into the lobby.
43 posted on 07/25/2012 11:43:38 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: AndyTheBear

Of course he is. However he is broke and not likely to make any money...

So.. The sharks.. er Lawyers have to go where the money is..


44 posted on 07/25/2012 11:50:10 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: cynwoody; Jonty30
If the theatre is preventing people from protecting themselves, then it is the obligation of the theatre to assume the responsibility of protecting its patrons.

I like your logic.


Me too. Asking your statement as a question If the theater is preventing people from protecting themselves, then IS IT the obligation of the theater to assume the responsibility of protecting its patrons? If the answer to that question is found in the court of law to be Yes, that may be what takes down all the "No weapons in here" signs.

That could be the deal breaker right there.
45 posted on 07/25/2012 11:50:17 PM PDT by sjm_888
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To: Houmatt

They've got it bad Robin ... Us, not so much ;o)

46 posted on 07/25/2012 11:53:49 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: sjm_888

I believe that the courts have ruled that it is your obligation to ensure the guests well being when they are in your house, e.g. drinking.

A private business would be as responsible for the customers within their premises.


47 posted on 07/25/2012 11:55:33 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mylife

Building and fire codes mandate the exits.

It isn’t in the best interest of the theater to allow the exits to be operable from the outside. They lose ticket sales to kids entering in the theater from the rear. Many theaters used to patrol the exits to catch re-entrant squatters.

Theater isn’t in the wrong.


48 posted on 07/26/2012 12:02:51 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: A Navy Vet

I think you might have mentioned this in your fist post, but this type of logic really does leave just about any small business in the lurch.

If the theater is liable, then every other business would be liable if some nut-job walked in the front door and started shooting the place and employees up.

What small business can afford to put an armed guard on every entry/exit point at their business?

Arming the employees would also be a liability, because any fellow employee shot by an armed employee that went postal, would then suit the business owner for that as well.

At some point, we have to allow for the fact that litigation is not the cure for everything that takes place.

At times life sucks, and you can’t be made whole in the aftermath.


49 posted on 07/26/2012 12:39:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: DoughtyOne

But small business owners don’t routinely disarm their customers, leaving them defenseless.

Cinemark did exactly that.


50 posted on 07/26/2012 1:32:34 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don't choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: agere_contra

Okay, I think that’s a reasoned point to make, but...

Do you think the theater owners would be safe from being held accountable if someone they let in with a gun stood up and shot five innocent people at random?

No. They wouldn’t be safe then either.

The theater owners are damned if thy do and damned if thy don’t.

I would rather opt with letting concealed carry in, but that won’t eliminate owner exposure.


51 posted on 07/26/2012 2:03:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: Houmatt

He’s suing Warner Brothers because they make violent films. So what was he doing at a violent film?


52 posted on 07/26/2012 2:39:46 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (Scats for Newt!)
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To: stlnative
Every theater I have been in is the same way. You are free to use any of the side exits to leave the actual theater (no alarms just EXIT signs on or above the doors).

Yeah, I don't understand all the people thinking these are emergency exits. They are simply exits provided to accommodate leaving the theatre and are there in case of fire.

53 posted on 07/26/2012 2:55:38 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Lawsuit.........It’s the American Way!


54 posted on 07/26/2012 4:01:23 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Houmatt
America's new pastime: litigation.

The Kenyan must go.

55 posted on 07/26/2012 4:08:21 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: cynwoody

That meets the Occam’s Razor test for me. I’m with you.


56 posted on 07/26/2012 4:19:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ingtar; mylife
Early reports were that someone answered a cell phone, then headed to the exit. After he sat down, the shooter came in the exit.

The shooter bought a ticket juts like everyone else, went to his seat, then after the movie started got up and went out the emergency exit (and rigged it open), went out to his car that was 25 feet away, donned his gear and grabbed his guns and then went back in the propped open exit door and started firing.

57 posted on 07/26/2012 4:48:53 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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To: Houmatt

I love this place. As long as you can find the right political bent, then bullshit lawsuits are a-ok.


58 posted on 07/26/2012 4:54:52 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Houmatt
Can't believe I'm reading on a Conservative site other posters wanting Cinemark to be sued.. Incredible...

Frivelous lawsuits and lack of personal responsibility and wanting someone else to blame has been one of the main reasons for this countries downward demise.

As another poster mentioned the shooter is at fault..no one else.

Shaking my head...

59 posted on 07/26/2012 4:55:17 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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To: Wolfie
I love this place. As long as you can find the right political bent, then bullshit lawsuits are a-ok.

Yep, as they say, conservatives want small gov't on things they are against but big gov't on policies that matter to them...

Country is fricken doomed.

60 posted on 07/26/2012 4:58:25 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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