"This time for sure!"
Posted on 07/12/2012 8:57:26 PM PDT by Perseverando
Author of 'Isaiah 9:10 Judgment' interviewed on American Family Radio
It may be scary and it may be eerie, but events in America today are following a biblical pattern of warnings of a coming judgment, according to the author of “The Harbinger,” which has been No. 1 among Christian books since it was released last winter.
In its film form, the message has been No. 1 among all Christian videos since it debuted as “The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment” in March.
Author Jonathan Cahn, in an interview with American Family Radio, explained that the template was created when God issued a series of warnings to the nation of Israel before it was judged, and eventually allowed to fall into captivity.
The same sequence of events now has developed in the United States, starting with the terror attacks of 9/11, he said in the interview with Ed Vitagliano of the American Family Association production.
The events outlined in Isaiah 9:10 concern a limited strike on the nation of Israel by its enemies. Most commentaries say the strike was allowed by God in order to warn Israel to return to its faith.
Instead, the leaders of Israel vowed to rebuild and restore the nation themselves, and come back stronger than before.
It’s the same sequence of events in America today, Cahn said during the interview, to the point that the template outlined “the actual dates and hours of the crash of the American economy.”
“It can be an eerie or a scary thing, but these same nine harbingers of warning of a nation’s judgment are appearing on American soil,” he said.
“It’s happening, extremely precisely and specifically,” he said. He said what has happened in America is that God’s protection was removed for a time – for the time of 9/11.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Sid Roth interview with Johnathan Cahn part 1
http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10457&news_iv_ctrl=0&abbr=tv_
Sid Roth interview with Johnathan Cahn part 2
http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10494&news_iv_ctrl=0&abbr=tv_
And WND just happens to sell the book.
Do tell.
THIS biblical template? I thought it was THAT biblical template.
Judgement is coming! Time #4,387
This stuff is essentially religious equivalent of porn.
Great way to make money, though; I wonder how much Hal Lindsey raked in through purveying nonsense throughout the years. And it doesn’t even matter if you’re a complete failure! You can still sell and have a career.
Would be harmless, but we need people with a genuine understanding of current events, their causes, and possible futures, and nothing impairs that understanding more than desperately trying to shoe-horn everything into apocalyptic fantasies.
"This time for sure!"
America will go down. All nations do.
Naming the date of the collapse is a bit trickier.
Btw, the Harbinger was available (not sure if it still is) for $0.99 as a Kindle
download and the author is a Rabbi. I highly recommend that you, and every
Freeper read it!
The problem I have with this is that there is no prophecy saying this WILL happen, again. Or, that if you do these things God will do the same things he did before. This guy is saying this happened before and what is happening now is really similar so it all applies. I also think that it is a mistake to think that OT Jewish stuff is applicable to Christians. Christ changed it all, the relationship with God, everything. I can see why a Jewish Rabbi would believe it, but without a specific verse or passage that says it applies going forward, I dont think it does.
Predicted the arrival of the Messiah and also predicts his second coming.
That is a given and does nothing to address the question of whether or not the Harbinger is based on prophecy or extrapolation. I think it is one guys take on lining up what happened and what is happening with no biblical basis for the link.
I get it was prophecy that was realized for the Jews in their history. Does it say anywhere that it will repeat or that it remains applicable? I don’t think it does.
Well for some reason Paul, from the tribe of Benjamin of the House of Jacob wrote the following: ICorinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples (examples): and they are written for our admonition, (warning) uponwhom the ends of the world (age) are come.
Paul begins this chapter talking about Moses.
Christ Himself described what would be the 'signs' events that would take place prior to His return. These events are recorded in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21.
I do not 'get' this notion that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob got replaced when He sent Christ to become the one and for all time blood sacrifice. The original plan is still the plan, except now we do not have to let blood to have forgiveness of our sins upon repentance.
If you follow or accept the line of reasoning for the Harbinger, every single OT prophecy remains in effect or can be activated by repeating specific actions. I don’t think it works that way. I have never heard it put forth by anyone. There is a new Covenant that controls.
Huge difference between an example for learning and saying those things are still in effect and control and have the same outcome. I would never argue that they are not important or worthwhile for study and knowledge.
HE was not replaced but HE did change the rules of the game.
Thanks for posting this. Isn’t this theory the subject of Cahn’s book the Harbinger?
Well to each his/her own. But for me during my short lifetime this nation has acted very much like the House of Israel did until The LORD divorced her and sent her packing to the Assyrian king.
HE was not replaced but HE did change the rules of the game.
I suppose one could call it changing the 'rules' of the game. I do not consider it a game given that we are talking about the death of ones soul if one rebels.
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