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Salt, we misjudged you
New York Times ^ | June 3, 2012 | by Gary Taubes

Posted on 06/03/2012 7:37:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

THE first time I questioned the conventional wisdom on the nature of a healthy diet, I was in my salad days, almost 40 years ago, and the subject was salt. Researchers were claiming that salt supplementation was unnecessary after strenuous exercise, and this advice was being passed on by health reporters.

When I spent the better part of a year researching the state of the salt science back in 1998 — already a quarter century into the eat-less-salt recommendations — journal editors and public health administrators were still remarkably candid in their assessment of how flimsy the evidence was implicating salt as the cause of hypertension.

“You can say without any shadow of a doubt,” as I was told then by Drummond Rennie, an editor for The Journal of the American Medical Association, that the authorities pushing the eat-less-salt message had “made a commitment to salt education that goes way beyond the scientific facts.”

While, back then, the evidence merely failed to demonstrate that salt was harmful, the evidence from studies published over the past two years actually suggests that restricting how much salt we eat can increase our likelihood of dying prematurely. Put simply, the possibility has been raised that if we were to eat as little salt as the U.S.D.A. and the C.D.C. recommend, we’d be harming rather than helping ourselves.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: diet; foodnazis; garytaubes; health; healthnazis; hypertension; nannystate; nutrition; salt; science; sodium; taubes
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

LOL! I hear ya! Been there done that! My dad called that condition “Mexican heartburn”. I don’t eat anything spicy anymore because that is what happens. :D


101 posted on 06/04/2012 7:02:32 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: JRandomFreeper

I would refine that to say that in theory MAN can survive without beer in rare documented cases, while most men can’t. But I find the female of the species to be a wine-based terrestrial organism, while man is beer-based matter. Many a woman can’t survive without her wine.


102 posted on 06/04/2012 7:02:46 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: svcw

Save yourself, don’t eat carrots. Everyone who has died of health problems has eaten a carrot at least once in their lifetime. Be warned.


103 posted on 06/04/2012 7:13:41 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Ditter

Let’s just say I use moderation. No diving into the bowl anymore. But I have to admit, it suuure was good. I mean, it was flaming delicious Jalapeno dip. Really good. And I paid for it dearly with my Mexican heartburn.


104 posted on 06/04/2012 7:14:34 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Silicone dioxide is mixed in with the salt. This tears up the insides of your arteries and they start bleeding.”

Care to provide documentation for this? Sand is silicone dioxide...how does it get into the arteries from the stomach or intestines?


105 posted on 06/04/2012 8:22:30 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I didn’t know that. I take Metoprolol and Lisinopril, and the blood pressure is good. Potassium doesn’t have any side affects that I’ve noticed.


106 posted on 06/04/2012 8:36:34 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Ditter; Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“My dad called that condition “Mexican heartburn”. I don’t eat anything spicy anymore because that is what happens.”

This problem is exagerated if a person has hemorrhoids. I have sometimes eaten whole jalapenos out of the garden, hot ones, and normally do not have this problem.


107 posted on 06/04/2012 8:36:34 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: svcw

SSKI is the enemy of Hashimoto!

And it is easy to use.


108 posted on 06/04/2012 8:38:04 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: IrishPennant

>> “ My God, says EVERYTHING in moderation” <<

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Scripture reference please.
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109 posted on 06/04/2012 8:40:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Mmogamer

Salt used to be in rather limited supply.

If you sat above or below the salt at table was an indication of status.

Was someone “worth their salt”?

Salt is an essential nutrient. When you are low on salt you will notice that a salty food is suddenly the most delicious thing you have ever eaten.

So much like caloric intake - we went from a society where it was essential to take in as much as was possible to one in which it was cheap plentiful and abundant - and limiting its intake might be necessary.


110 posted on 06/04/2012 8:44:57 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: pallis
I take both meds, too, and the lisinopril is sensitive to hyperkalemic buildup ... you have to watch for edema (swelling) esp in the lips. The problem is, if you have it in your face, chances are you have it simultaneously and asymptomatically in your chest cavity and around your coronary blood vessels, where it's dangerous. Swelling is bad esp. for lisinopril patients -- don't know whether/what degree for other ACE- or ACT-inhibitor patients.

That's from my old Prinivil/lisinopril advice to patient, and I was cautioned by my doc about that. If it doesn't show up soon after starting lisinopril, "you're probably okay" on a longterm basis. I think.

111 posted on 06/04/2012 8:48:50 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: netmilsmom

At 23, doctors think Lizzie Velasquez has a form of the rare neonatal progeroid syndrome, which accelerates her aging and makes it almost impossible to gain weight. Blind in one eye, indeed, she does have to eat between 5,000 and 8,000 calories a day, and has never been more than 62 pounds, according to reports.

People survived Death Camps because they were able to survive on minimal calories. That’s it plain and simple.


Sorry, but there is a big difference between an inability to efficiently absorb calories (generating calorie-rich waste) and absorbing more calories that the food contains (impossible.)


112 posted on 06/04/2012 8:52:39 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: DefeatCorruption
All salt is sea salt. The extra that you pay for "Sea Salt" is just to pay for the label that says "Sea Salt".
113 posted on 06/04/2012 8:59:05 AM PDT by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: allmendream

Salt used to be in rather limited supply.

If you sat above or below the salt at table was an indication of status.

Was someone “worth their salt”?


The use of the phrase “salad days” in the first sentence of the article is amusing because the word “salad” derives from the word salt, used to create salad dressings for vegetables in Roman times.


114 posted on 06/04/2012 9:00:08 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: DefeatCorruption
All salt is sea salt. The extra that you pay for "Sea Salt" is just to pay for the label that says "Sea Salt".
115 posted on 06/04/2012 9:00:50 AM PDT by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Yes and if you have diverticulosis it gets serious in a hurry!
116 posted on 06/04/2012 9:06:50 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ignatz
All salt is sea salt. The extra that you pay for "Sea Salt" is just to pay for the label that says "Sea Salt".

If I'm not mistaken, the only difference between various types of salt is the crystal size.

If it's labelled "sea salt" or "kosher salt", the crystal size is slightly larger than regular salt. The larger crystal size also requires a slight difference in recipe measurements -- since a tsp of larger crystals results in a smaller net weight of salt.

But all salt is simple NaCl -- nothing mnore, nothing less.

117 posted on 06/04/2012 9:07:18 AM PDT by okie01
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To: Beelzebubba

>>absorbing more calories that the food contains (impossible.)<<

It’s not a matter of absorbing more calories.
It’s a matter of HOW many calories a body can metabolize, how much is stored and how many each body needs.

To use a simple “calorie in/calorie out” method to determine how much weight a person gains or loses is silly. I worked with Anorexic and Bulimic patients. The amount of calories these people needed to maintain body weight would startle you. And we are talking forever, not this week, not six months.

Along with that, the horrendous junk science that has been accepted as fact (just like global warming) has taken a society of less active people and thrown them into metabolic syndrome like never before. AND add in the corn sugars to so many of the foods that one would not even suspect and we have been snowed.

Very few people can just reduce their food intake and lose a large amount of weight. (10 pounds, 20 pounds maybe) Their bodies will go into starvation mode and store energy or feed off their own muscle. Most must eat more, eat smarter and exercise it off. Exercise builds brown fat that burns calories more efficiently and longer.


118 posted on 06/04/2012 9:14:56 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: scram2

I have high cholesterol too. Higher than yours. I have had it for decades, no matter what my weight is.

Yet my blood pressure is perfect and I have clear arteries, no plaque detected. So I give up worrying about it.


119 posted on 06/04/2012 9:19:16 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
You do realize that drinking too much water will kill you dead? It is the flip side of to much electrolyte.
120 posted on 06/04/2012 9:25:49 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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