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Justifiable Homicides up, violent crime down, clearly this is a bad thing, according to the Guardian. /S
1 posted on 04/05/2012 7:58:34 PM PDT by marktwain
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Hey guardian azzhats, thanks for making it abundantly clear that you are part of the predator class. See my tag...


2 posted on 04/05/2012 8:01:11 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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So the opposite result is better?

Murders and lots of violent crime linked to strong gun laws?


3 posted on 04/05/2012 8:02:59 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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It took 3 geniuses to write this?

You say it like it’s a bad thing.


4 posted on 04/05/2012 8:03:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Hey Guardian...go screw. One of your headlines about the gun free England just two months ago.

“Murder rate rose 5% last year”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/19/murder-rate-rose-5-percent

How many victims saved their lives in the US being armed over victims being killed being unarmed in the UK, you Commie Pinko losers?


6 posted on 04/05/2012 8:06:20 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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TRANSLATION: Eric Holder’s people consider violent crime to be a legitimate career path, and armed victims to be an OSHA violation.


9 posted on 04/05/2012 8:11:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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The Guardian is happy with the skyrocketing crime rate in England. They want to share with us.


10 posted on 04/05/2012 8:12:12 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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“However, in states with both SYG laws and the weakest gun controls... we found ...an increase in justifiable homicides.”

Great news! It works!


11 posted on 04/05/2012 8:16:13 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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I fail to see any problem.....


12 posted on 04/05/2012 8:16:13 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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This editorial of theirs must have been terribly hard to write, because in just about any direction they could argue, self-defense is always reasonable.

It would be interesting to write an article about a future Britain where guns were legal, criminals had to serve long and harsh prison sentences, and heinous criminals would be executed. Such an article would be positive and optimistic, and show how the overall character of the British would improve.

Such an article would imagine ordinary people protecting and defending the elderly the young and the weak from violence by criminals, how the streets were again safe, and how disorderly and vicious people were put on the defensive out of fear of the good citizenry.


13 posted on 04/05/2012 8:20:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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So if justifiable homicides go up but violent crime goes down, doesn’t that mean that less good guys are dying?


14 posted on 04/05/2012 8:21:49 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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Uh Guardian, a dead thug is a good thing.


15 posted on 04/05/2012 8:22:28 PM PDT by MNDude
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It is pretty obvious to anyone with at least two functioning brain cells (which automatically disqualifies libtards) that Mr. Zimmerman could not retreat while the larger Mr. Martin was on top of him smashing his head into concrete repeatedly.

He was not “standing his ground”, he was pinned to it.


16 posted on 04/05/2012 8:25:38 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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The guardian can kiss my red-white-and-blue ass. Fight for what you believe in, stand your ground, and live by the rules set forth by our founding fathers. That is the American way!


17 posted on 04/05/2012 8:27:27 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Justifiable. Hmm, is it just me, but doesn’t that word imply that the killing was, uh, justified?

And that’s why it’s not called “justifiable murder”?


21 posted on 04/05/2012 8:33:29 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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...in states with both SYG laws and the weakest gun controls...we found a statistical correlation with an increase in justifiable homicides.

Note, the emphasis above is mine. So, the reverse is true then? In states with "strong" gun control laws and/or no stand-your-ground provision there are fewer justifiable homicides? Are the people there just nicer? Or are people deserving of getting killed being allowed to live and harm/threaten/kill others?

I'm sorry Guardian, you just made our (us pro 2nd Amendment types) case. Justifiable homicides are, well justified by definition. As if there were any doubt:

By contrast, violent crime overall has been falling.

Let me guess, they didn't investigate any statistical linkage there, any causal relationship. Or if they did, they didn't like the results and therefore aren't reporting on it. Bad people being justifiably killed, and violent crimes are decreasing. Hmmm, that's a tough one... Ok, you got me. I fail to see a problem here, other than the potential for a rise in the demand-for, and cost-of ammunition.

22 posted on 04/05/2012 8:39:10 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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justifiable homicides == self defense

I’d rather have more dead bad guys then more dead victims

then again, I’m a stupid conservative type that believes in smaller govt and tougher crime laws (whose sentences are actually carried out completely)


26 posted on 04/05/2012 9:04:33 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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I wonder if they bothered to check to see that gun crime in the UK is higher than the per capita gun crime in the US. And in a country with one of the highest restrictive gun laws. No more knives with sharp points either, only rounded ones are now for sale. Then too, a country where if you hurt or injure someone breaking into your house you’re the one who is going to be arrested.


29 posted on 04/05/2012 9:10:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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People exercising self-defense is not a bad thing. Only for the criminals.

Put the shootings in context, how many were deemed to be non-justified? Come on liberal media!

It’s not like permit holders go hunting for trouble. Trouble finds them, like bashing in their doors, trying to rob them, carjack them. Freaking idiots.

All of them wishing they had a gun when their daughter is raped in front of them and the thugs decide to murder the lot of them.


33 posted on 04/05/2012 9:36:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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[Rise in justifiable homicides linked to weak gun control laws
]

I’m not seeing the problem.


35 posted on 04/05/2012 9:56:13 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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The more thugs we shoot the less thugs there will be. I don’t see a problem!


36 posted on 04/05/2012 10:16:22 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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