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Romney, Santorum camps at odds over delegate math (Mitt's Voodoo Math)
CNN ^ | March 7, 2012

Posted on 03/07/2012 11:48:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

In a memo to reporters, Romney Political Director Rich Beeson laid out his camp's view that neither Santorum nor any of the other candidates in the race has any chance of securing enough delegates to secure the Republican nomination......

"Super Tuesday dramatically reduced the likelihood that any of Governor Romney's opponents can obtain the Republican nomination," Beeson wrote. "As Governor Romney's opponents attempt to ignore the basic principles of math, the only person's odds of winning they are increasing are President Obama's."

Beeson cited Romney's current lead in delegates and a tough upcoming primary and caucus calendar as examples of the tough road ahead for Romney's rivals. CNN currently estimates Romney to have won 404 delegates, well ahead of Santorum at 165, Newt Gingrich with 106 and Ron Paul with 66. A candidate needs 1,144 delegates to seal up the GOP nomination.

"Neither opponent succeeded in closing his delegate deficit, and the calendar ahead offers them dwindling opportunities to close the gap," Beeson wrote. "Looking at the weeks ahead, the remaining 34 contests have turned into a steep uphill climb for Governor Romney's opponents."

But, speaking to CNN, Santorum campaign adviser John Brabender brushed off the Romney campaign's analysis as "voodoo math," saying the figures were meant to dissuade voters from casting ballots for rival candidates.

"What he is saying he wants to do is disenfranchise Republican primary voters," Brabender said, pointing out that many of the delegates currently awarded to Romney in estimates were non-binding.

"What Romney is trying to do is call the game before it's even halftime because he has a lead," Brabender said.

He asserted conservatives shouldn't let a "moderate" dictate the winner of the Republican primary.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


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To: Jeff Head

Do you actually read what you post?
Remember brevity is the soul of wit.


41 posted on 03/07/2012 4:46:30 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: StarFan
Just listening to Kristol on FNC say that the next three States will be a win for Santorum

Kristol is talking out his rear end.

42 posted on 03/07/2012 5:29:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: svcw

Actually, I do...and you are certainly free to either read it or not and hold whatever opinion of it you will.

Be that as it may, I am also under no obligation and was unaware of any need to, “run it by you” for your approval before doing so.

Folks will find it useful and informative or not as they will. I just put it out there.

But have a great day.


43 posted on 03/07/2012 5:46:32 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

As always Jeff, answering questions or making statements to what was not stated or asked. A+


44 posted on 03/07/2012 5:51:55 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: svcw
answering questions or making statements to what was not stated or asked

Are you kidding me, svcw? Really?

Well, let's see, who jumped into this and started it?

Your post number 41 out of the blue was a comment that answered questions or made statements to me that were not stated or asked for as well, were they not?

So, Doc...heal thyself. You have a case of the Kettle calling the Pot black syndrome, IMHO.

If you don't like what I write...I'm sorry and that's fine. But there's no need to make a dispareging comment about it since it was not addressed to you in the first place anyway. I certainly don't go noticing your posts made to others on whatever topic and feel the need to make such statements about them.

Try and reciprocate...it'd be kind of nice.

45 posted on 03/07/2012 6:00:40 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Romney will most probably at this point begin to pivot and focus more and more on going head to head with Obama and concentrating on finding a VP pick that will solidify as much of the party and base as he can for the general election.

Much as I don't like it, I'm thinking that George Stephanolopis was right in his candid remark that it is going to be a Romney/Santorum ticket.

46 posted on 03/07/2012 6:44:41 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

To be honest, most of the delegates so far are non binding.

Of the bound delegates:
Romney - 315
Newt - 105
Santorum - 78
Paul - 29

As for Santorum, he got great momentum from the Co, Mn, Mo day, but absolutely no secured delegates, which is probably why Newt and Mitt didnt try very hard there. Had those delegates been up for the taking, Im sure they would have. There is still a long way to go, and all four candidates have different approaches.

Santorum is going for state wins, regardless of delegates, in order to stay ahead in the national psyche.

Romney is going for superdelegates (usually party guys) and delegate heavy primaries.

Paul is going for delegate registration, regardless of winning in the state, in order to secure delegates at the conventions.

Gingrich seems to be using a similar tactic as Romney, and going for delegate heavy primaries.

But at this point Romney has 3 times as many delegates as his closest competitor, and has more committed delegates than the other three combined. Of course, he is still only about 1/4 of the way to being the winner based on delegates, but it is the reality right now.


47 posted on 03/07/2012 6:50:45 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, Romney also said he didnt think he should get both at large votes.


48 posted on 03/07/2012 6:51:52 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam
Well, Romney also said he didnt think he should get both at large votes.

Easy to make meaningless statements like that.
49 posted on 03/07/2012 7:01:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jeff Head

Whoa! Nice work. That deserves its own thread.


50 posted on 03/07/2012 7:15:07 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: napscoordinator
Caution here: A winner-take-all system in all states would disproportionately benefit the front-runners and those with lots of money to buy expensive television ads, and make it extremely difficult for underfunded conservatives to compete after Iowa and New Hampshire.

We've already seen how the lower-ranked candidates didn't even bother to compete in winner-take-all states, pretty much conceding them to Romney and whichever other challenger had the highest polling data in that state.

The current system has problems but I don't think making everything winner-take-all is a good idea, though if a state wants to do that I don't have a problem so long as it does not become the norm.

16 posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:18:06 PM by napscoordinator: “You know what is funniest of all. Everywhere I go that shows delegate numbers are different. Every last place. So if these so called experts are getting the delegate numbers wrong, how can it possibly be a fair system or maybe that is what they want. I say give each state a delegate count and make them winner takes all and that way this crazy delegate cheating system will not be available. I still think it is dumb for a 2nd or 3rd place finisher to get delegates. Why? I mean it is like in youth sports where the loser gets a trophy too since they don't want that team to feel bad. The dumbing down of America continues even when running for President. Why not keep the electoral college and the first person to get to 270 electorates get the nomination?”

51 posted on 03/07/2012 7:48:22 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: littleharbour
37 posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2012 5:05:34 PM by littleharbour: “Tough situations call for bold action. Santorum and Newt need to get in a room and sort this out in the next 10 days. The window of opportunity will soon close.”

Agreed. The two need to talk, and talk **RIGHT NOW.**

I'm not so sure a President-Vice President deal is the solution, and I'm not sure either needs to drop out, but they definitely need to do something.

Otherwise we're going to get Romney.

52 posted on 03/07/2012 7:54:06 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: FreedomPoster
Thanks.

IT HAS ONE

Some great comments there. Particularly the last few about strategizing on Newt and Santorum coming together.

53 posted on 03/07/2012 8:15:18 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

“Super Tuesday is now over. 10 States held primaries or caucuses. Mitt Romney won 6 of the 10. Rick Santorum won 3 of the 10, and Newt Gingrich one 1 of 10, his home state of Georgia.. A majority was won by a single candidate in only tree of the states. All by Mitt Romney with Mass at 72%, Idaho at 62% and Virginia at 60%. Of the total of 23 contests held to date, Romney has won an absolute majority 4 times, adding Nevada to the above at just over 50%. The only other majority win was Santorum in Missouri with 57%. To date, Romney has won 14 contests, Santorum has won 7 contests, and Newt Gingrich has won 2 contests. Ron Paul has not won any. “

Good summary!

Obviously, the only candidates garnering real delegate totals are Romney and Santorum. everyone except Romney and Santorum should get out of the race.


54 posted on 03/07/2012 8:37:16 PM PST by WOSG (“Legion of Acceptibility”)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for the thread CW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKybaYJpUs
Guy Clark - Rita Ballou


55 posted on 03/07/2012 9:46:40 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: EGPWS
So why bother with primary voting if come hell or high water the numbers WILL be what the party elites want anyway?

Now you ae getting it. Cool.

56 posted on 03/07/2012 11:55:05 PM PST by itsahoot (This space currently for rent. 1-800-555-1212)
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To: Liberty Valance

Thank you LV.

:)


57 posted on 03/08/2012 12:59:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“MittMath” must be quite challenging. They used it to justify MittCare in Massachusetts, definitely worth an audit.
58 posted on 03/08/2012 4:04:13 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney got the backing from the establishment and all of us were supposed to go in am line and vote as the establishment tells us.

Now Romney who thought he had this from the get go is saying, the others need to drop out and give me the nomination so I can go against obama.

Well FU Romney


59 posted on 03/08/2012 4:48:56 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

don’t forget that Newt should have got the delegates here in FL too but the good ole boy club of the GOP is seeing to that they all go to Romney.


60 posted on 03/08/2012 4:50:22 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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