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Obama: Jesus would tax the rich
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Posted on 02/02/2012 8:20:06 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Obama: Jesus would tax the rich By: Jennifer Epstein February 2, 2012 10:12 AM EST

President Barack Obama tied his proposal to raise taxes on wealthy Americans to his faith on Thursday, telling leaders gathered for the National Prayer Breakfast that Jesus’ teachings have led him to that conclusion.

The rich pay more not only because “I actually think that is going to make economic sense, but for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’s teaching that ‘for unto whom much is given, much shall be required.’” Obama said at the Washington Hilton, delivering remarks at an annual event that every president has attended since Dwight D. Eisenhower.

“We can all benefit from turning to our creator, listening to him,” Obama said. “Avoiding phony religiosity…. This is especially important right now when we’re facing some big challenges as a nation.”

“When I talk about our financial institutions playing by the same rules as folks on Main Street, when I talk about making sure insurance companies aren’t discriminating against those who are already sick or making sure that unscrupulous lenders aren’t taking advantage of most vulnerable among us,” Obama said, “I do so because I genuinely believe it will make the economy stronger for everybody, but I also do it because I know far too many neighbors in our country have been hurt and treated unfairly over the last few years. And I believe in God’s command to ‘love thy neighbor as thyself.’”

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To: kiryandil

Sheeperals HATE it when you point out that their imputed righteousness is accomplished at gunpoint.

They’re such “good people”, you know, who would never advocate violence. So they put their blinders on and refuse to see the inherent use of or threat of violence behind the implementation of their “good works”. If you force their head around to see it, they get really agitated.


61 posted on 02/02/2012 8:47:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: hosepipe
Jesus taxed no one... ever..

Why should he, he inherited everything, everyone, everywhere.. The King of King’s has no need to be a parasite .. Only the heirling makes demands on his servants(taxes).. (John ch 10)

The Lord of Lord’s has zero needs..

Exactly. And when He returns to take up His throne, it won't be so He can enact socialist utopian wealth-redistribution schemes.

62 posted on 02/02/2012 8:48:01 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: grumpygresh

Mark 12:17

“Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s.”

That’s the only part of the Bible ‘Caesar Obama’ has ever read or understood, and he stopped reading after the word Caesar’s.

And on Drudge today:
Obama: I Pushed Dodd-Frank And Health Care Reform Because Of Christ


63 posted on 02/02/2012 8:48:11 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, of course, we all know that Jesus taught that the government should take money by threat of lethal force from rich people and give it to poor people.

He obviously has not read his Bible.

Jesus said in Luke 4:18, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised”.

Nothing in there about Jesus wanting to take money by force from the rich to give it to the poor.

And Jesus said in Matthew 13:12, “For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.”

Now, that’s talking to spiritual matters, but if 0bama0 can use scripture out of context, then so can we.

But here is the HEART of the New Testament about giving, from 2nd Corinthians 9:7, where Paul writes, “Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.”

And in 2nd Corinthians 3:17, “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

There is no liberty in having the threat of jackbooted thugs dispossess you of your home, and even your life, unless you pay-up so they can “redistribute” your hard-earned income to “the poor”.

Even worse, only about 10% of what the government takes for “the poor” ever gets there. The other 90% is consumed by “administrative costs”.

Compare that to the 95% efficiency of organizations like the Salvation Army, United Jewish Appeal, Mennonite Central Committee, and the vast array of Catholic charities.


64 posted on 02/02/2012 8:48:27 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The first thing a Christian knows is you do not speak for Jesus. You can only quote his scripture.


65 posted on 02/02/2012 8:48:44 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Sub-Driver

I believe in God’s command to ‘love thy neighbor as thyself.’”
_______________________________________________

Who is my neighbor ???

50 MILLION unborn babies...


66 posted on 02/02/2012 8:49:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney went to Florida and spent $25,000,000 and all he got was a couple of lousy delegates)
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To: reasonisfaith

Great answer.


67 posted on 02/02/2012 8:50:28 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Arrowhead1952

Merchants under the permission of the high preists. Selling souveniers in the temple to tourists and travelers during the passover.

One can assume the high preist got a cut of proceeds being sold in the temple.

Jesus was pissed that they had turned this holy time of celebration into a commercial enterprise and used a place of worship as a marketing tool and base of operations.

Later, the high preists had him killed for it (among other things). “Who was this peasant that should criticize me? Disrupt my sales and accuse me of hypocracy?”


68 posted on 02/02/2012 8:50:28 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: reasonisfaith

“Jesus would ask the rich to give freely, of their own heart, for the purpose of glorifying God.”

Amen!

Charity is NOT extortion by government!


69 posted on 02/02/2012 8:50:47 AM PST by poobear
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To: Sub-Driver

Not to pay for the criminal enterprize YOU are running!


70 posted on 02/02/2012 8:51:32 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama reportedly gave 1% of his income to charity.

Biden gave $369 one year total to charity.

John Heinz Kerry one year gave zero, nada, nothing.

Why give to charity when they can take it from us?


71 posted on 02/02/2012 8:52:45 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Sub-Driver
Would suggest that Michael Novak's "The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism" and other writings are helpful in sorting out and providing sound reasoning on the merits of America's founding ideas as opposed to those advocated by the present Administration.
72 posted on 02/02/2012 8:52:45 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Sub-Driver

For the sake of argument, let’s say Obama is correct — Jesus would “require more” of the rich. My question would be, how and in what manner does he think Jesus would spend those revenues? And another — would Jesus spend money he didn’t have?


73 posted on 02/02/2012 8:53:24 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Newt 2012)
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To: Sub-Driver

So where is the ACLU and their cry of separation of church and state? /sarc


74 posted on 02/02/2012 8:56:15 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t Jesus was concerned with the matters of government and policy. He desired to change men’s souls, and thus their personal actions.

As for abortion, I don’t believe he would have run for Senate to change abortion policy but instead preach out to the souls of abortion Doctors and say “How can you not see this is lIfe?”, and try to enact change in that way.

Jesus asked men to voluntarily change their lives . He was not in the business of determining appropriate tax brackets. Good grief.


75 posted on 02/02/2012 8:56:42 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: RexBeach

More important, would Jesus support leaving babies who survived abortions to languish and die, as the Illegal did?


76 posted on 02/02/2012 8:58:10 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Sub-Driver

6. Untrue - Obummer lies again:

1. Envy is a sin.

2. Jesus had gold:

``On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of GOLD and of incense and of myrrh.``
Mt 2:11

3. Judas was in charge of the purse./

4. Jesus had rich supporters:

Luke tells us that several women who had been healed helped support Jesus “out of their own means” (Luke 8:3). These included “Joanna the wife of Cuza, the manager of Herod’s household; Susanna; and many others.”[33] Although they were probably involved in meal preparation, Luke indicates that their most significant role was to pay the bills.

5. You will always have the poor with you, Mk 14: 7

6. Untrue Obummer lies again:

Luke 19:2-10 (New International Version)
A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was WEALTHY. 3 He wanted to see who Jesus was, but because he was short he could not see over the crowd. 4 So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way.

5 When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.” 6 So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly.

7 All the people saw this and began to mutter, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinner.”

8 But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”

9 Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”


77 posted on 02/02/2012 8:58:15 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Jesus had gold???? Who knew?)
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To: reasonisfaith

“Jesus would not tax anyone.

Jesus would ask the rich to give freely, of their own heart, for the purpose of glorifying God.”

You’re absolutely correct. These anti-Christian hypocrites on the left never miss an opportunity to misrepresent the teachings of Christ. Money given to the government at the point of a gun is not Charity - it is theft.


78 posted on 02/02/2012 9:01:32 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama: Jesus would tax the rich

This evil "person" needs to stick with what he knows.

The best he can say is that mohammed would cut the throat of the rich and take what they were traveling with.

79 posted on 02/02/2012 9:03:43 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Sub-Driver
And I believe in God’s command to ‘love thy neighbor as thyself.’
Yet I do not remember any command about loving thy government as thyself…
80 posted on 02/02/2012 9:04:30 AM PST by cartan
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