Posted on 01/24/2012 6:55:11 AM PST by mitchell001
On his income taxes released today, we see that Romney gave $4 Million tithe donations to Mormon Church. Do Mormons help poor Americans with these donations? Do the Mormons have something similar to Catholic Charities, which helps thousands of Americans (both Catholic and non-Catholics) with basic life needs, medical help, childcare help, education help, etc. The main question is do Mormons use the $4 Million from Romney to ONLY advance the Mormon religion without helping the American poor. Does Romney even know or care what the Mormon Church does with his $4 Million donation? I think that is a fair question.
Ditto.
My point was that most denominations view, if grudgingly, other denominations as some degree of “non Christian”. Witness a recent FR thread notes the Pope declaring unification of Christianity per se would require “conversion” of non-Catholics thereto.
My point likewise can be expanded to include Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and other widely respected religions who in no way consider others an alternate true path. They may have grave doctrinal differences, but they can at least function together in a polite & respectful manner on the political stage.
Wherever you place Mormonism on the religious spectrum, a believer thereof can function in a respectful manner in politics.
#1...NO Christian denomination has ANY "scriptural" assessment of a specific sect by name -- cultic or otherwise. (IOW...words they place DIRECTLY in the mouths of God as a specific assessment of any say "cultic" group).
That can't be said of Mormonism.
What you are referencing are mere Christian leaders' opinions...which may come and go with the wind. Lds "scripture" with specific references to the Christian church cannot so easily be dismissed. (It'd be like telling Jews to jettison the 10 Commandments...as these references Lds make about Christian sects are the very "First Vision" upon which Mormonism is founded)
Mormon "scripture" specifically condemns Christian sects -- even Presbyterianism by name -- in Joseph Smith - History in the Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price.
#2...because these Mormon "scriptures" are unique "creations," obviously LDS take greater concentrated care publishing wise, $-wise, & Lds missionary wise to print & circulate these in the millions globally. Name me ANY Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox church spending dozens of millions of $ to translate/circulate similar specific slander worldwide about the Mormons, JWs, etc. (You won't be able to find it)
Catholicism, Calvinism, Pentecostalism, etc take a dim view of each others’ doctrines - yet can operate together in polite company.
Of course. I have Lds relatives. That happens. And certainly Christian scoutmasters can work together with Lds scoutmasters to the betterment of Boy Scouts...or, say, a food pantry down the street.
Yet that doesn't mean we HAVE to ignore the worldwide slander paid for by Mormons -- especially wealthy Mormons. (Hey...we can be relationally civil as well as yield group-to-group and political accountability...we can multi-task and properly segment out these tensions)
Insofar as we’re talking national politics here...
Hey, if radical Islam 100% cleaned up its jihadist bent,
...and stopped oppressing and persecuting both women and Christians in Africa, the Middle East, Indonesia, etc...
...there would still be reasons to not be excited by a supposedly "conservative" Muslim candidate coming to solicit my vote.
If he still taught that Christians are spiritual infidels (something Islam teaches)
-- similar to Lds teaching that Christians are "apostates"
-- that is not exactly "inspiring" for me to get behind him as a candidate...
...I mean...here would be a candidate who believes something specific about Christians that's of deep offense to 75% of his base! (Time for Romney to come clean about what he believes about Christians...are we "apostates?" Are we "the church of the devil" (1 Nephi 14:9-10, Book of Mormon); are we a false & dead church (Doctrines & Covenants 1:30)...This isn't mere "polity" or "policy" ... but Mormon "scriptures."
Besides, even Romney said in '07 he wouldn't put a Muslim in his Cabinet...I don't see any FREEPERs calling for Romney to "up" his level of inter-religious "polite"ness...
Hmm...Imagine that...How seemingly hypocritical.
Yes...but context -- how we treat another -- doesn't negate the necessity of addressing certain content...the worldwide specific slander of Mormon "scriptures" paid for by lifetime 10-percenters like Romney.
Context is the how...Content is the what...two separate considerations.
Here’s a hint. I’ve been here maybe a couple of months and nearly every other day there is a mormon bashing thread. Perhaps the search function can assist you. I have a very good memory, but am also a very lazy researcher when others can answer their own question.
Matthew 19:21
Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me.
2 Corinthians 9:9
As it is written: He hath dispersed abroad, he hath given to the poor: his justice remaineth for ever.
Galatians 2:10
Only that we should be mindful of the poor: which same thing also I was careful to do.
Prove your charge that there are ANY mormon bashing threads.
Apparently you are unable to tell the difference between exposing mormonISM and (allegedly) bashing mormons.
I am sorry to hear about your son. I will pray that God opens his eyes and he returns to Christ.
Utah leads the country in white collar crime. They are not as honest as they portray, nor as trustworthy in general. As a convert, your son will find that out the hard way.
Mormonism is beyond wierd, it is demonic. Do you know that in their temples they wear an apron signifying the priesthood of Lucifer? I can source that for you.
I implore you to do a little research on Mormons and what they really believe and help open your sons eyes.
www.mormonoutreach.org
www.irr.org/mit
www.exmormon.org
www.utlm.org
www.mrm.org
Mormon or not, you still made a weak attempt at dodging the issue...
And that is there are many ways to “ask” someone to do something.
IOW, coercion, with regards to the perceived rewards or consequences.
Exposing or discussing Mormonism isn’t ‘bashing’ individual Mormons. It is speaking the truth - the truth the Mormons won’t tell you.
FTR, both Szonian and Sentinel came out of Mormonism and became Christians because of threads just like this one.
You’re new here. This thread belongs in Religion, not News/Activism. Don’t know why the mods leave it here, but best to move on to something else. That’s my suggestion.
Here’s a hint...
Reading comprehension. Try it sometime.
However, as far as I'm concerned, it's Mitt Romney's church and Mitt Romney's money. He's entitled to pay his tithes with his money and that's the issue for me (and I understand the implications of tithing for him, but that's theology - my interest is in history and I believe Romney and others are free to believe as they choose).
If there were an article debating claims one way or the other made by the LDS Church or Romney about charitable use of the money, or non-LDS groups making claims about use of the money, it may be different. But here: Romney's money, Romney's church. I'm willing to draw the line.
“Meanwhile, it asks members in third world nations in poverty to sacrifice their gold fillings to build ugly temples.”
I never said that, Elsie. But, you’re right, they are “purty”.
Zip a Dee Doo Da.......
THX 1138
I guess that makes you - what's that phrase - Oh...
A useful idiot.
NOT a 'mormon' but carrying their water.
Gotta help out the MORMONs because those 10-12 Flying Inmen are picking on them.
It seems that my predictable stream of rants has embroiled you in yet another argument about Mormonism and the LDS Church.
I'm sorry about that.
It seems to be an obsession with me.
I just HAVE to speak out on a HERESY that despises CHRISTIANITY and yet wants SO much to BE it!
If you find that I post INCORRECT stuff about mormonISM; be sure to point it out.
I'd hate to be obsessed as well as incorrect!
The 'context' is that MORMONism is NOT a 'denomination' of Christianity.
Never was - never will be.
If MORMONs do not like the posting of their chosen religion's theology, history, writings and teachings; perhaps they should find another religion.
Or grow tougher skin.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.