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Romney gave $4 Million donations to Mormon Church. Do Mormons help the poor with these donations?
January 24, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell

Posted on 01/24/2012 6:55:11 AM PST by mitchell001

On his income taxes released today, we see that Romney gave $4 Million tithe donations to Mormon Church. Do Mormons help poor Americans with these donations? Do the Mormons have something similar to Catholic Charities, which helps thousands of Americans (both Catholic and non-Catholics) with basic life needs, medical help, childcare help, education help, etc. The main question is do Mormons use the $4 Million from Romney to ONLY advance the Mormon religion without helping the American poor. Does Romney even know or care what the Mormon Church does with his $4 Million donation? I think that is a fair question.


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KEYWORDS: donation; inman; mormon; romney; tithe; vanity
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To: stuartcr

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181 posted on 01/24/2012 10:48:31 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: ansel12
Sorry, not interested. I have to go off to redistribute some wealth, so you'll have to find another playmate.

I stand by my comments...as the OP said, "It's a free country."

182 posted on 01/24/2012 10:48:50 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: ansel12; truthkeeper

Apparently, “truthkeeper” isn’t interested in the truth. Well, we tried.


183 posted on 01/24/2012 10:51:48 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: rose

What mormonISM teaches about Catholics:

“Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the “whore of Babylon” whom the Lord denounces... as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. And any person who shall be so wicked as to receive a holy ordinance of the gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent of the unholy and impious act. If any penitent believer desires to obtain forgiveness of sins through baptism, let him beware of having any thing to do with the churches of apostate Christendom, lest he perish in the awful plagues and judgments, denounced against them. The only persons among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people who have authority from Jesus Christ to administer any gospel ordinance are those called and authorized among the Latter-day Saints. Before the restoration of the church of Christ to the earth in the year 1830, there have been no people on the earth for many generations possessing authority from God to minister gospel ordinances. We again repeat. Beware of the hypocritical false teachers and imposters of Babylon!
- Apostle Orson Pratt The Seer, Vol.2, No.4, p.255

And:

1 Nephi 22:13:
And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.

And:

- This church had a history of an Inquisition similar to the Roman Catholic Church in that it “slayeth the Saints of God, yea and tortureth them and bindeth them down, and yoketh them with a yoke of iron and bringeth them down into captivity” (1 Ne. 13:5).

- The people involved with this depraved organization wore finery similar to priestly vestments; their church structures were ornate; and women in their church, like nineteenth-century Catholic nuns, were accused of sexual misconduct. Smith’s Nephi reported in the Book of Mormon that he “saw gold, silver, and silks, and scarlets, and fine twined linen, and all manner of precious clothing; and I saw many harlots” (1 Ne. 13).

And:

D&C 29:21:
“And the great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall be cast down by devouring fire, according as it is spoken by the mouth of Ezekiel the prophet, who spoke of these things, which have not come to pass but surely must, as I live, for abominations shall not reign.”

D&C 88:94:
“And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That great church, the mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, that persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood—she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea—behold, she is the tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it.”

Just thought you should know (there are at least 100 more quotes from leaders, books and BofM)


184 posted on 01/24/2012 10:57:35 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

You sound like another GOP_Lady, you show up to fight for Mormonism/Bishop Mitt, and you make sure that you announce that you are doing it as a “Catholic”.

A good Catholic would not be making proMormon efforts, he would be worried about what it means when the Mormons seduce a Catholic away from Christianity.


185 posted on 01/24/2012 10:59:44 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: little jeremiah

sweet...and genuine


186 posted on 01/24/2012 11:01:55 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: Bearshouse; svcw; reaganaut
Bush considered putting the Mormons in charge of relief efforts because they already had such a large network of relief workers in place.

Sorry, mormon faith-promoting rumors don't count as legitimate sources.

If that had been the truth, the mormon PR peolple whould have had it on every public venue imaginable.

187 posted on 01/24/2012 11:04:31 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (When does Mittens come out in black-face to accuse Newt of racism? H/T APatientman)
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To: MHGinTN; Jim Robinson

This is one in a series of mormon bashing threads I’ve seen since I signed on. I am surprised the owner allows it. But he does what he does.

As I said before there’s a lot about Romney not to vote for him, so what’s the point of bashing mormons?


188 posted on 01/24/2012 11:04:31 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

You are confusing exposing mormonISM with bashing mormons, which is not happening.


189 posted on 01/24/2012 11:08:08 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: morphing libertarian; MHGinTN; Jim Robinson

Hmmm...you smell like a retread.

Speaking the truth about Mormonism, especially the truth they either won’t tell you or lie to you about, isn’t bashing.

The LDS use a lot of PR to make it seem they do a lot of charity (esp to non Mormons) but the reality is far different.

Being a conservative is about researching and knowing the facts, that is part of what this is doing.

Now, is there anything about Mormonism you would like to know, ML? I’m always open to answering questions.


190 posted on 01/24/2012 11:08:45 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Obviously you didn’t read this thread about mormon charities. If the poster had done some homework he wouldn’t have posted this crap.

I stand by my earlier statement. This is one in a series of posts intended to bash mormons because Romney is a mormon. He is also liberal, isn’t that enough to not vote for him?


191 posted on 01/24/2012 11:13:49 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

Obviously you didn’t read this thread about mormon charities. If the poster had done some homework he wouldn’t have posted this crap.

- - - - -
I have read the thread. It is a valid question and considering the LDS lie and overly us PR to make it seem like they give more than they do, it gives us a chance to expose the truth about Mormonism.

Don’t know much about Mormonism, do you ML?

I won’t vote for Romney because he is liberal. I don’t trust him espeically to tell the truth, because he is Mormon. You cannot separate Mitt from his Mormonism as he is a good, faithful, True believing, Temple worthy Mormon. His mormonism is also WHY he is liberal not in spite of it.


192 posted on 01/24/2012 11:17:23 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
MORMONism apologist in action...
 
 

193 posted on 01/24/2012 11:27:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
Maybe as a Catholic you should wander onto the Mormon threads once in awhile and find out what they really believe about Catholicism. It ain’t pretty.


Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

194 posted on 01/24/2012 11:28:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
I am familiar. My son is mormon, I am catholic. You can call their teachings weird or whatever, but so what.

As got criminality, never saw it. His state does a lot of good work and the mormons take care of their own at least.

These threads are in two groups, mormonism is weird and we shouldn't vote for a mormon. I don't agree with the second point, I would vote for a conservative mormon if they led the pack. I think the religion is illogical and a little off, but so what? They're free to believe on faith, as many of us do on our beliefs.

195 posted on 01/24/2012 11:30:45 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: mitchell001
Does Romney even AMERICA know or care what the Mormon Church does with his $4 Million donation?
196 posted on 01/24/2012 11:30:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Great graphics! But I’m curious, Elsie: is this little girl and her stuffed horse the equestian response to Calvin and Hobbs?


197 posted on 01/24/2012 11:31:18 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: mitchell001
On his income taxes released today, we see that Romney gave $4 Million tithe donations to Mormon Church.

What ELSE do we 'see'?

Headquarters in SLC is going to be MIGHTY concerned if that 4M is LESS than 10% of the GROSS!

198 posted on 01/24/2012 11:32:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dforest
He can do with it as he chooses as long as it is legal.

Pete: The Preacher said it absolved us.
Ulysses Everett McGill: For him, not for the law. I'm surprised at you, Pete, I gave you credit for more brains than Delmar.
Delmar O'Donnell: But they was witnesses that seen us redeemed.
Ulysses Everett McGill: That's not the issue Delmar. Even if that did put you square with the Lord, the State of Mississippi's a little more hard-nosed.
 
 
 
You gotta invert this logic when dealing with the Powers that Be in SLC!!

199 posted on 01/24/2012 11:38:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dforest
It is (h)is money.

877 cash NOW!

200 posted on 01/24/2012 11:39:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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