Posted on 01/03/2012 3:21:42 PM PST by Yosemitest
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Sorry, I’m not Rush, but I do like your sarcasm.
I don’t know how you got that from “...it’s still on the table.” Especially with so many posts arguing with the bill’s main proponent here. Anyway...
See post 88. Also see the parts of the bill where it actually states US citizens are subject to existing laws and the detention of terrorists is meant to be in accordance with AUMF.
I hope you are right but If the only source of food/water, shelter and clothing comes from the armed forces a lot of them will do as they are ordered I believe. I hope I am wrong on this assumption. Your thoughts on that premise?
The regime rush?
Naw, try the ruling class of RINO and DemRat scum.
Butchers Bill 369 for the three hundred and sixty-nine heads who will be held to account for violating their oaths as no federal statute can repeal the Bill of Rights, our God given inalienable Rights.
SENATE (86 of 100)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00230
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES (283 of 435)
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-932&sort=vote
Something to ponder: Give me liberty or give me death.
Just what do you believe?????
Oops. Should have read, “if THEIR only source”...
I believe they are attempting to set the stage in vain for some type of martial law action (wouldn’t be possible for the entire U.S.A. unless foreign troops brought in), in the face of economic/social collapse and citizens rage when welfare, etc ceases.
Or use police state tactics against anyone or group (pro-Constitution) who threatens the ruling class status-quo and power control structure and will use military detainment snatches with black bags over dissident heads.
Then may I introduce to you fine chum the Doctrine of One Hundred Heads:
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/10/mathematics-of-liberty-one-hundred.html
America... the vision of the Founders; the land of the free; the home with the welcome mat for those who worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph; an inheritance for children of the freewoman (Sarah). THAT America is the place of light and truth, and is an allegory for Jerusalem.
THAT America is and has been on the chopping block (guillotine) because darkness utterly despises light. Light ruins darkness' nature merely by existing.
With the big lie fixed in place - Obama installed and revered as the "head of the free world" - hell and death have been given an open invitation to spread delusion and destruction all over the land, by calling them "hope and change".
If free people willingly choose to prostrate before an Amalekite usurper and his demonic hosts (e.g. most of Congress), then they are not free, but slaves to fantasy, delusions, and all manner of deceit. The only way they see fit to keep the lies propped up is to destroy Truth and those who cling to it.
Speaking of allegories...
Matthew 23
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
I’ve read quotes pulled from the bill saying that US Citizens cannot be detained. I can’t read hundreds of pages of legalese gobbledygook. So which is it? US citizens can be detained or not? I still don’t get it.
If as you say this is “nutty stuff”, then please explain this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSgZUT8X5tI
If there is “No Change” to current laws, then why is written in the bill?
I’ve read other excerpts that were worded differently. I guess the Senate and House have different versions. This thing is so horrible.
I supposed great legal minds will be going over this with a fine tooth comb.
Why did any Rs vote for this thing?
If the law has not changed, then why the provision in the law?
Oh and please explain this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSgZUT8X5tI
Refer to post 88 where I address that. And then look at section 1031 and posts e and d to see what I have been referring to about how NDAA 2012 does not give govt powers it did not already have before regarding detaining Americans
Nice try but you are not convincing anyone....
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