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2012 Iowa Caucus Live Thread
Iowa GOP ^ | 1.3.12 | Free Vulcan

Posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:24 AM PST by Free Vulcan

Live thread to cover today's GOP caucus. News, predictions, opinions, totals, and the like.

Will be heading out about 4 pm or so to get our site ready and do a final review with the precinct chairs. I expect it to be bigger than 2008 with very heavy turnout and we are preparing for that.

We are also ready for disruptions. They simply won't be tolerated. The state party sent us a memo saying if there's any trouble call the cops immediately. Anyone trying to cause problems is going to get a rude awakening.

My predictions of the outcome are a narrow field with about a 10 point spread for the top five with Bachmann far behind in single digits:

Santorum - 24 Romney - 22 Paul - 20 Perry - 17 Gingrich - 14 Bachmann - 4 The Rest - 1

Think things are still in flux and many won't decide till right to the wire, so I'm not terribly confident of any predictions.


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To: CainConservative

Stop that. Perry is not going to drop out


1,401 posted on 01/03/2012 8:57:51 PM PST by make no mistake
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To: Slings and Arrows

I can’t imagine Ron Paul will go anywhere.
I still think that Santorum’s pulling ahead is a fluke...sort of like his turn now to be in the lead.

That leaves Newt v. Romney. And there’s a ton of folks who remember that Romney = total RINO flip flop, and will pull for Newt instead.

I won’t vote for Romeny. Ever. For any reason.


1,402 posted on 01/03/2012 8:57:51 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: teg_76

What in God’s name do you expect her to say?


1,403 posted on 01/03/2012 8:58:25 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Rational Thought

Perry won’t drop out now. He is going to S.C.


1,404 posted on 01/03/2012 8:58:25 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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To: nicmarlo

It’s disgusting and amazing. Hypocrites, all.

I reckon that’s why vicious attack ads continue: because they’re effective.


1,405 posted on 01/03/2012 8:58:49 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Prokopton

Wrong. Gingrich was a baptist the majority of his life.
He wins SC going away.


1,406 posted on 01/03/2012 8:59:13 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Cato in PA

Someone without a job, watching their child slowly wither away from hunger does not care too much if Stan and Frank get “married.”


1,408 posted on 01/03/2012 8:59:47 PM PST by Grunthor (Do you worship the State or do you worship the Lord? There is no middle ground.)
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To: RitaOK; CainConservative

Everybody wants somebody to drop out.

If CainConservative (by the way where is Cain, CainConservative?) had a nickle for everytime he’s said Perry should drop out, he’d have enough money to support his candidate.

Not sure who that is, he’s changed 5 times. That’s consistency for you.


1,409 posted on 01/03/2012 8:59:47 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: jjotto

You may be unaware of this, but in the South the Catholic population is increasing rapidly because of northern transplants and the high birth rate of legal immigrants.

New parishes pop up every month. I have friends from PA and Michigan who have moved south and helped to start new parishes in Florida and SC.

The demographic is really changing down there.


1,410 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:01 PM PST by Palladin (No Newts!)
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To: altura

That’s my point. If he continues on and draws 10% of the vote, he could be the reason why Romney wins the nomination, aka, a spoiler. I don’t believe the Governor would want to play such a role.


1,411 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:05 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: BenKenobi
Yeah, but Perry and Bachmann are out. So Newt survived beating Perry, but now he’s got to contend with the fact that the Bachmann supporters and Perry supporters will likely go to Santorum now.

Exactly. And since Mitt Romney cannot overcome his 25%-ceiling of support, the only thing that now stands in the way of having a conservative GOP nominee at this point is Newt Gingrich.

1,412 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:06 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: mitchell001; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican
he (Santorum) cannot communicate the conservative message as well as Newt Gingrich.

I agree, he'd do it better than Gingrich.

1,413 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:06 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Cato in PA

Bachman in Iowa has not been a factor in numbers or money for weeks. This makes me think her endorsement means very little to actually no one. Certainly not Romney. Of course, Romney may be kind to her given the interference she ran that so benefited him.


1,414 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:13 PM PST by RitaOK (The higher you poll in Iowa, the more embarrassing it is for you.)
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To: teg_76
You die hard Perry supports are guaranteeing a Romney victory. You lost! You lost!

Wow, you are so right. I mean why do any other states need a Primary? Let's just go with Iowa, and scrap all the other states.

1,415 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:13 PM PST by sockmonkey (He's not perfect, but Perry is no wussy boy)
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To: greeneyes

It will be interesting to see the gender breakdown in Iowa for Gingrich. With his 13% finish in Iowa, he did not get a whole lot of votes. And if one assumes there is a 50-50 split
of male-female votes, then he got 6.5 % women voters. Not good.


1,416 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:13 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: nicmarlo

4 percent left, Santorum still up by a hundred.

I’m told Dubuque is what’s left. Still wayy to close to call.


1,417 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:49 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: RitaOK

“Newt is going to New Hampshire. Rick Perry is going to SC in the morning.”

Exactly. He will arrive in Aiken, S.C. early Wed. Perry doesn’t like to lose an election -— and he never has lost one.


1,418 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:49 PM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Major take away from tonight is that Romney is STILL AND OFFICIALLY stuck at around 25%.

And this is as good as he's played in every presidential contest he's been a part of. Romney simply does not connect with the majority of center-right voters. Never has - never will.

Too bad he can't see it, and will persevere until someone royally creams him over several primary votes.

1,419 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:49 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: nicmarlo

Nor I. As for the eventual winner...I’m not that good a fortuneteller.


1,420 posted on 01/03/2012 9:00:49 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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