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NBC/WSJ poll: Romney struggles with primary voters, Gingrich with general electorate
MSNBC ^ | Dec 13, 2012 | By Mark Murray, Deputy Political Director, NBC News

Posted on 12/13/2011 4:43:36 PM PST by Jim Robinson

WASHINGTON - Exactly three weeks until the first Republican presidential nominating contest in Iowa, front-runners Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney have two different challenges, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

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Gingrich leads the GOP pack According to the poll, Gingrich, the former House speaker, is the first choice of 40 percent of GOP primary voters -- the highest percentage any Republican presidential candidate has received in the party horserace so far.

Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, is the first choice of 23 percent of Republicans. He’s followed by Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 9 percent, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann at 8 percent, Texas Gov. Rick Perry at 6 percent, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman at 5 percent, and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum at 3 percent.

Reduced to a three-person GOP race, Gingrich gets 53 percent, Romney gets 31 percent and Paul gets 13 percent. And in a two-way Republican contest, Gingrich leads Romney by 23 points, 59 percent to 36 percent.

What’s helping Gingrich and hurting Romney? Look no further than ideology.

Fifty-seven percent of Republican primary voters view Gingrich as a conservative, 28 percent see him as a moderate and 10 percent believe he’s liberal.

By comparison, 53 percent of them view Romney as a moderate, 29 percent see him as a conservative and 11 percent believe he’s a liberal.

“Romney’s problem has always been ideology,” Hart says.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; election; elections; gingrich; huntsman; paul; perry; poll; polls; romney; santorum
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1 posted on 12/13/2011 4:43:39 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

So we got one guy who can win the primary but not the election. And we’ve got another guy who can win the election, but not the primary.

Beam me up, Scotty.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 4:47:06 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Jim Robinson

Could be that Romney is not only moderate but liberal! Why do you think that the media loves him compared to others.

Neither Newt nor Romney should be considered but between the Belt-way Republicans and the Media, we have selected our candidate! You’ve got to be kidding!

Neither is worthy of our vote! We have some good candidates running and we listen to the media? Sometimes I think that we should just give up and re-elect Obama just to show the country the extent of his ignorant progressive philosophy. Sometimes it takes failure and pain to change the minds of the sheep!


3 posted on 12/13/2011 4:47:57 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Deagle
I'm suspicious of anything out of NBC.

If Newt has major “unfavorables,” why is he rising in the polls ?

4 posted on 12/13/2011 4:49:43 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Jim Robinson

Hey network a-holes, y’know there’s another prominent politician, this one in high office, who’s struggling with the general electorate, too.


5 posted on 12/13/2011 4:50:18 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Jim Robinson
Even the lamestream media is all torn up about Romney lagging in the primaries.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 4:50:25 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Jim Robinson
By comparison, 53 percent of them view Romney as a moderate, 29 percent see him as a conservative and 11 percent believe he’s a liberal.

I help with 6th grade math home work every night and am very good at addition and I surmise that 82% of the people just aren't paying attention. Romney is neither a "moderate" nor a "conservative", he's a dyed in the wool liberal, appearing to tack to the right to accomplish his purpose of becoming president.

My great hope is that after getting a royal ass kicking in Iowa, that he also loses in New Hampshire and then we will finally be rid of his sorry ass.......until 4 years from now, when he runs again.

7 posted on 12/13/2011 4:51:26 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but I want a President who loves mine.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
If Newt has major “unfavorables,” why is he rising in the polls ?

Because he's not Romney, I would have preferred, in order, Palin, Cain, Bachmann but can indeed vote for Newt in the general. Since I live in Illinois, my vote doesn't mean a lot anyway, by the time we have our (open) primary, it will most likely already be settled.

8 posted on 12/13/2011 4:55:25 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but I want a President who loves mine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

This story is already behind the times. A poll out today shows Newt ahead of Obama in the key swing states.


9 posted on 12/13/2011 4:57:47 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Newt is rising because:

1) The MSM media wants him compared to others.
2) They have lots of negative information on Gingrich that will hopefully degrade him during the election.
3) They think that Obama will defeat him because of his past problems. (They care little about Obama’s past problems).

4) Most people read little but see this kind of negative propaganda provided by the MSM and actually believe it.

All relate to the media and the Democratic parties bucket of negative issues that will degrade his elective possibilities.


10 posted on 12/13/2011 4:58:22 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Signalman
If you swallow NBC spew regarding the republican candidates, you need beamed up.
11 posted on 12/13/2011 4:58:51 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Graybeard58

Even their sentence structure is biased.

That sentence should have listed the results in the same order:

Fifty-seven percent of Republican primary voters view Gingrich as a conservative, 28 percent see him as a moderate and 10 percent believe he’s liberal.

By comparison, only 29 percent of them view Romney as a conservative, a whopping 53 percent see him as a moderate and 11 percent believe he’s a liberal.


12 posted on 12/13/2011 5:02:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
The WSJ is a very reputable polling operation.
13 posted on 12/13/2011 5:03:12 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: Graybeard58

I live in Oregon! We always know who wins before we vote.

I was so unhappy with McCain I didn’t even bother voting in the primary.

I hope my vote will count for something this time. But Oregon is sooo BLUE.

It would be nice just this once to have it go red because of the ditz we have in the WH.


14 posted on 12/13/2011 5:03:16 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (I think, therefore I am conservative.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Interestingly, another poll showed Newt only slightly less strong than Romney against The One, but still beating him in all 12 swing states.

Newt’s electability is a lot more fluid, and I think he has a stronger ability to win over non-supporters than Mittens. I mean, look at FR! He won a lot of us over these last few month.


15 posted on 12/13/2011 5:04:16 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I noticed that too.

They also used the words first choice leaving a positive comment of Romney being in 2nd place.


16 posted on 12/13/2011 5:13:52 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (I think, therefore I am conservative.)
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To: Parley Baer; RockinRight; Oynx

Ok, great! Bumped the earlier report to breaking news also. It is indeed good news. May the trend continue.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2819763/posts


17 posted on 12/13/2011 5:16:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Parley Baer

*sigh*.

No, the poll showed that he’s ahead in a pool of all the states that Obama won. He’s not ahead in all the key swing states, and is actually behind Obama in what he needs to win.

Half the states he’s ahead in, half the states he’s behind in.


18 posted on 12/13/2011 5:17:04 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Jim Robinson

We are going to have a brokered convention. Aint no doubt about it.

We could see a third candidate enter the race and get the nomination.


19 posted on 12/13/2011 5:25:58 PM PST by crz
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To: SENTINEL; Jim Robinson

“Even the lamestream media is all torn up about Romney lagging in the primaries.”

Only until and unless he becomes the nominee...then (like McLame) he’ll become the Devil incarate.


20 posted on 12/13/2011 5:26:32 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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