Posted on 12/13/2011 2:43:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Ron Paul, the once-forgotten presidential candidate, is picking up steam in Iowa and now appears poised to overtake frontrunner Newt Gingrich, according to a new survey released today from the left-leaning Public Policy Polling.
The poll finds support for Gingrich has slipped to 22%, with Ron Paul just behind with 21%. Mitt Romney trails in third place with 16%.
That's a five-point drop in favorability for Gingrich, who has raced to the top of the Republican presidential field over the past month. PPP found Gingrich's favorability numbers have fallen 19 points over the past week.
Meanwhile, support for Paul is on the rise, particularly among younger voters and voters who identify themselves as "new." Among likely caucus-goers under age 45, Paul leads Gingrich 30-16. The numbers are nearly flipped for caucus-goers over age 45.
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You are right....and I give the people in Iowa more credit than some seem to. They wouldn’t be that stupid.
I’d like him to represent me, though!
Because we've been at war with Islamic terrorism since 2001. It's now 2011, and no one can figure out what the heck we're doing, or our goals. Because they're sick and tired of being roughed up by the TSA. Because Republicans have historically kind of been this way. Democrats tended to get us into war, I think. I remember Bob Dole's unfortunate comment about "Democrat wars."
Some guys with boxcutters got lucky. They were Saudis. American kids are still suffering with dead Dads, and Obama has been disastrous at any kind of leadership. It's just not in the news anymore, yet we're still there. There's a lot of ignoring going on by the media. Young people especially are clueless about everything.
The Republicans on the podium were idiots about the developing housing bubble. I remember Freepers yelling at each other about there not being one, and how the people warning about a financial crisis were "chicken littles." Ron Paul is pretty much the only one up there who has credibility on this issue. I was particularly incensed by the housing bubble, and I particularly have always been sympathetic to Peter Schiff.
I am not, nor never was, a Paulbot. I liked several candidates - they've mostly imploded. But my peers -- homeschooling families -- are into Ron Paul, so I'm trying to figure it out.
I understand Ron Paul has the Moonlight Bunny Ranch vote sown up, but I didn't post the pik. Mods probably wouldn't like it. :-))
That’s how you see our attempt to free the Iraqi people from tyranny, and going after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Pretty simplistic. And I suppose “Neocon” = Jew? It’s a good thing your candidate has such a small following...God preserve us from such crackpots. Yours is a very naive and dangerous viewpoint.
Why didn’t you accompany your childlike reply a “funny” picture?
Don’t let me cramp your style.
My guess would be a so called "grass roots push" for Jeb Bush.
I'm expecting a big change come Iowa.
> Couldnt do it on your own, eh?
Nope. There ain’t enough of us home-schoolers to make a difference. Most voters couldn’t care less about what happens to home-schoolers or gun owners.
So, what are the home-school gun laws like in your state?
Can you home-school without state interdiction?
Can you carry concealed without a permit? Can you even BUY without a permit?
Ron Paul has already won, intellectually. But, the man is too old and too iconoclastic to be President.
Mitt Romney is smooth, but what does he really stand for?
Newt Gingrich is a great debater but, my goodness, by his very own analysis he should be put in jail, along with Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Geitner and Bernanke, for the mortgage meltdown. He was in it up to his armpits.
In 2008, John McCain got me when he named Sarah Palin his running mate. Ditto in 1996, when Bob Dole named Jack Kemp. But, I don’t think any
I say, let’s draft General Petreaus and have him name a running mate like Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell.
“almost late” is the same as “on time”.
“close to a win” is the same as “a loss”.
Thanks SeekAndFind.
I think that's good to do, to ask those questions.
I just think Iowa and New Hampshire are as good of states as any. Any small state will have a cross section of people. And I think everyone in every state has an input at this stage, especially with the importance of forums such as FR and many others..
It's not just the people of Iowa deciding things right now.
And things change over time. Ethanol support was a very important thing to show here in Iowa. Funny thing is now, that is hardly a factor anymore. That's just one example.
I am very much in favor of the retail politics model however. Getting out and meeting people face to face, rather than large ad budgets which would allow a candidate to not have to meet people face to face.
If Jeb Bush is forced on us, he will lose. Loseloseloseloselose.
He wants homo marriage and was one of the only 5 Repubs to vote for homos in the military.
He hangs out with Code Pinkos and other assorted hardcore leftists nutcases.
I would never, ever vote for him. He’s a loose cannon idiot and his followers are Ronulan cultists.
No, I don’t believe “neocon” is synonymous with “Jew.” Some neocons are Jews, but we are discussing Newt Gingrich here, who isn’t Jewish. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were not Jews.
The people who support endless war foreign wars in the Middle East tend to fit a very peculiar profile: the vast majority of them are Baby Boomers in the 50s and 60s and are either retired or nearing retirement.
The people who oppose the neocon foreign wars (i.e., Ron Paul supporters) are overwhelmingly the Millennials who have to (1) fight those wars and (2) spend the rest of their lives paying for them.
Guess what? Millennials don’t think it is a good idea to squander trillions of dollars to bring women’s rights and democracy to Islamic backwaters while over 11 million Mexicans and other foreigners have been allowed to invade our own country.
They clearly see that there is a connection between taking that much money out of the productive economy and investing it in debt to China and the terrible economy that was created by Bush and Obama.
The people who support neocon foreign wars are living in a bubble world where Ron Paul is the “crackpot” on that issue - the truth of the matter is that the rest of the country and especially independent voters and Millennials perceive them as the crackpots.
A crackpot idea is invading Iraq to take out Saddam’s non-existent WMD while letting North Korea develop real nuclear weapons and allowing Pakistan to give shelter to Osama bin Laden for almost a decade.
We are in a different kind of war - THEY are at war with us. Ignoring it (as Clinton did), or treating it as a criminal matter and putting terrorists in American courts - got us 911. We are going to be at war as long as they are at war with us. Are we doing it perfectly? No - we’ve never fought a war like this before. But we got rid of Saddam and Osama bin Laden and killed a whole lot of Al Qaeda bastards. What would Ron Paul and his followers have us do, sit back and do nothing? Plead with Ahmadinajad to stop pursuing nukes? Ron Paul’s “leave me alone” philosophy is fine domestically but is dangerous when it comes to protecting this country. I wouldn’t vote for him under any circumstances.
Ya don't fight compassionate wars.
War and compassion are total opposites.
Anymore of of these decades long compassionate wars, and the wheels come off, leaving us totally 100 percent vulnerable.
How about we start by freeing ourselves? Because this hunt for terrorists has reached the point where under the new FY2012 National Defense Authorization Act, the USA is now being declared "part of the battlefield":
Sen. Lindsey Graham supported the bill saying : The homeland is part of the battlefield, and people can be held without trial whether an American citizen or not.
That does not make me feel safer. It makes me angry that we as a people have turned into such a band of wimps looking for terrorists under beds, that we are surrendering our freedom and our country to an out of control tyranny that makes everything else pale by comparison.
i’d have zero interest in Jeb.
Not a snowballs chance in hell! !!
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