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To: madmominct

No, I don’t believe “neocon” is synonymous with “Jew.” Some neocons are Jews, but we are discussing Newt Gingrich here, who isn’t Jewish. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were not Jews.

The people who support endless war foreign wars in the Middle East tend to fit a very peculiar profile: the vast majority of them are Baby Boomers in the 50s and 60s and are either retired or nearing retirement.

The people who oppose the neocon foreign wars (i.e., Ron Paul supporters) are overwhelmingly the Millennials who have to (1) fight those wars and (2) spend the rest of their lives paying for them.

Guess what? Millennials don’t think it is a good idea to squander trillions of dollars to bring women’s rights and democracy to Islamic backwaters while over 11 million Mexicans and other foreigners have been allowed to invade our own country.

They clearly see that there is a connection between taking that much money out of the productive economy and investing it in debt to China and the terrible economy that was created by Bush and Obama.

The people who support neocon foreign wars are living in a bubble world where Ron Paul is the “crackpot” on that issue - the truth of the matter is that the rest of the country and especially independent voters and Millennials perceive them as the crackpots.

A crackpot idea is invading Iraq to take out Saddam’s non-existent WMD while letting North Korea develop real nuclear weapons and allowing Pakistan to give shelter to Osama bin Laden for almost a decade.


114 posted on 12/13/2011 4:58:01 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: WilliamHouston

You’re all over the map here, equating different things. The reasons for the “endless foreign wars” stem from the fact that there are insane Muslim fanatics there who want to kill us and we decide to go there kill them first, which doesn’t seem like such a crazy idea to me. And when you talk about the the nonexistent WMD, you conveniently ignore the context of Bush’s decision, which was after 911, when we have an insane dictator who is playing cat and mouse with the UN inspectors, NEVER proved that he did NOT have WMD, and in fact, we know that he DID have them, since he used them on the Kurds. Plus the fact that every other country thought he had them. It’s convenient to rewrite history after the fact, but it was Saddam’s responsiblity to prove he did not have WMD - after 17 UN resolutions, which the corrupt Europeans were never about to enforce because of the Oil for Food program. So in that post-911 context, it made sense to depose a dangerous dictator who could funnel weapons to terrorist groups as well as make his own.

Guess what - the Millenials you talk about are American, are they not? Therefore they are just as vulnerable to terrorism as the rest of us. And many of them are proud to serve their country by killing those who would kill us. It’s not a waste to promote democracy.

As far as the border - I agree - we shouldnt be letting 11 million Mexicans and no doubt terrorists come in - which is why Conservatives want a president who will secure the border.

No, you are the ones living in the bubble world...thinking that if we mind our own business then everyone will leave us alone. We were minding our own business on 911. Anyone who would say, as Paul did recently, that Bush was happy about it, because it gave him an excuse to invade Iraq, is despicable.


137 posted on 12/13/2011 7:47:38 PM PST by madmominct
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