Posted on 12/02/2011 6:30:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Here’s the news people on Twitter are buzzing about from tonight’s raincheck interview with the Manchester Union-Leader. We already knew this, though — sort of. Cain told Wolf Blitzer on Monday, before we had heard Ginger White’s name, that his wife didn’t know White. (Skip to 7:30 of this clip.) That’s ever so slightly different from saying his wife didn’t know about White or that he was sending her cash, but c’mon: If she did know that, don’t you think he would have mentioned it to Blitzer as proof that their friendship was no secret?
Cain said that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, White was “asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.
“She wasn’t the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent’ or whatever the case may be. I don’t remember all the specifics.”…
“My wife now knows,” Cain said. “My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I’m a soft-hearted giving person.”…
He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, “nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that…
Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation, “but I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money.
Supposedly she was desperate for cash, desperate enough that she’d risk ruining the marriage of a friend who’d been sweet enough to give her money by lying in exchange for a payout from some shadowy enemy — yet not so desperate that she’d try to blackmail Cain himself? If that’s true, she has a strange moral code.
Here’s the vid of the Union-Leader interview. Skip ahead to 22:00 and 46:00 for a few questions about White. Cain’s lawyer is pushing back by demanding copies of her phone records to try to prove that she was the one sending most of the texts, but even if that’s true, his polls are what they are. I can understand him wanting to stay in the race on principle if he’s innocent, but his support is now a wasting asset; if he wants to exchange it for something valuable, the sooner he does it, the better. Romney’s desperate to keep Cain’s supporters from bolting for Gingrich so he’d probably offer Cain something in return for an endorsement (Cain endorsed him in 2008, remember), but … what could he offer? A cabinet appointment or ambassadorship requires Senate approval, which would mean new scrutiny from Democrats of the harassment charges, White’s allegations, etc. Plus, endorsing Romney this time would complicate Cain’s brand as an authentic grassroots conservative anti-establishmentarian and he needs that brand to protect his chances at a show on Fox or a new talk-radio gig. Then again, endorsing Gingrich wouldn’t do much for his brand either. If he doesn’t endorse Mitt, then who? (Speaking of Newt, check out our very clever frontrunner turning a question about Cain into a play for social cons.)
One thing Romney has that Cain increasingly needs is campaign cash. According to WaPo, the Cain Train is almost out of steam financially, to the point where they can’t afford to run ads rebutting all the charges against him. If he ends up in debt, Romney could promise to erase his liabilities in return for an endorsement and some appearances on the stump. Obviously, though, that’ll matter much more to Romney when Cain’s still at 10-15 percent than when he’s at five. Tick tock. Click the image to watch.
I’m still on the Cain Train. Giving money to another woman without telling your wife is really stupid, but Cain is still capable of being a great president. I am giving Cain the benefit of the doubt over the left wing media until they produce a stained blue dress. The disparity between how the media treats Cain and how they treated Bill Clinton and B. Obama is incredible, and shows their worthlessness as a source of unbiased perspective.
Wow, these people really want Cain out. They really want the left to win.
Um...have you seen her picture?
I can understand your feelings, but I decided a while back after so many disappointments with Bush after 2004 and even before not to get too heavily invested or emotional about any of them. So it’s “next” for me. Look at it like a business transaction. My objective is to not have the country destroyed to an absolute point of no return and that will surely happen with another 4 years of Obammie. Some feel that the Republicans are taking us to hell too, just slower. I get that same feeling in my gut. But slower is good because something can always happen in between to change the course of history. If you have taken the fast lane to hell and are already there, there’s no chance for a miracle.
Does anyone remember the crap Bush went through with the drinking accusations, the military awol accusations and the abortion accusations? You would think nothing like this ever happened before. How about all the crap Palin went through?
The people here on FR who really want the Left to win should stop and think why they terminate conservatives every time.
>> Where exactly is the blame for the people, the Left, who are actually doing this?
OK. The Left sucks for focusing on Cain’s philandering ways. Especially since they maintain a strong double standard on the subject.
Do you feel better now?
Doesn’t help Cain though. *He* is the root cause of his own problems. If he hadn’t been a serial horn dog the Left would have no ammo.
Remember when the Left tried this crap against Perry? It didn’t stick, because there’s no there, there.
And Romney? Mr. Mormon White Bread? I shudder at the thought of him as POTUS, but you have to admit, this morals crap doesn’t even gain traction, because he has kept his nose clean. Ditto both Bushes. And Reagan. And, hell, even Jimmy Carter.
Cain is not a victim. He brought it on himself.
Thanks for the link at post#12. She says there were hotel rooms. That means this will be EASY to confirm or debunk.
Let’s do it, oh, great blogoshpere. Confirm it. Or debunk it.
We The Public want to know the truth.
So why is it that Democrats get a pass while Republicans don’t?
Remember, the only person who lost his job because of “Monica Gate” was Bob Livingston.
>> So why is it that Democrats get a pass while Republicans don’t?
C’mon... licentiousness is a *job requirement* for a ‘rat politician. :-) After all, they work for Satan on behalf of the libertine sector of the population.
Republicans and Conservatives have higher moral standards. Or, at least, they *ought to*.
Bravo, Huck, I love a good metaphor. Second round of applause for "vanity candidacy."
We have a real conservative candidate, pro life, pro family, pro 2nd. Pro small very limited government. And with a proven track record of success. Gov. Rick Perry.You're right. Good man. Good governor. Would make a good president.
But not electable. He's currently polling less than the margin of error. Less than Duncan Hunter in 2008.
The Perry ship has sailed, and Perry's not on it.
True, but it's getting to the point where it's, "Nevermind that s---, here comes Mongo!" Having morals is nice and all, but sometimes there are bigger fish to fry.
Rick Perry has a record of achievement that crushes Newt and Romney. It's the record that is going to contrast Obama.
Imagine if Obama refused to debate Newt. We would be screwed because Newt is not likeable. His only and I mean only strength is that he can debate. All Obama has to do is refuse.
What I don’t get is why this woman went public (assuming it’s true - which is not 100% asssured) when she did. If she truly hates the guy why did she carry on 13 years with him, and if she’s just out for the money, then going to him privately and bargaining for a cushy job for after he got elected would make more sense.
I will admit that your thoughts echo mine. I was enthusiastically supporting Cain since very early on but this all seems to be just too much of this. Mind you, I think the earlier tarts were simply a bunch of Democrat-based, false accusers. But this one, well, as a principled Conservative, this one is too much to let slide.
It does make you wonder how we’ll ever get a solid, pro-conservative candidate. If this revelation had been about a (D) candidate, it would be going down completely differently. You just know that’s the way it is. There truly is a double standard, but that’s because people on the left have no principles, so you can’t violate any of them (except maybe finding out a democrat is pro-life - that’s a game changer to their side).
Sigh.
Well at least Perry has 17 million to spend and a record of achievement to tout. I say he hangs on until the convention.
um, have you seen herman’s wife? or for that matter herman himself? attractive is relative.
>> Having morals is nice and all, but sometimes there are bigger fish to fry.
I consider not only a candidate’s ideology but also his judgment and his character. Especially when there’s no track record of governing to give an indication of how he’d perform.
No matter how Cain may toe the conservative line with his rhetoric, I find his judgment and his character lacking.
I also don’t find his proposals all that appealing. 999 is hogwash, IMHO. His stand on the border is confusing, and his foreign policy understanding is naive at best. He has not been as clear as I would like in his statements of how he would cut spending and rein in Washington either.
When I roll it all up, I can’t find any good reason to support him.
With all do respect. What are we fighting? Communism via stuff like EPA AGW, etc,, redistributing wealth? Crony capitalism, globalist movement, gun grabbers, etc. Now go back to the big picture. Where does the media proclaimed front runners record stand on such major issues? Where does allegations of adultery fit in to those problems? Yes, adultery it is of some concern if it happened but is of little concern compared to the larger issues we are fighting.
Bottom line: If Cain stays in hes gets the votes of the conservatives who are not fair weather lemmings of the media.If he drops out because of family problems then it’s moving on to the next “conservative” on the list; which obviously do not include the fake poll’s claimed current leaders (sic).
I don’t condone adultery. However way too much is at stake that is of more importance.
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