Posted on 12/02/2011 6:30:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Here’s the news people on Twitter are buzzing about from tonight’s raincheck interview with the Manchester Union-Leader. We already knew this, though — sort of. Cain told Wolf Blitzer on Monday, before we had heard Ginger White’s name, that his wife didn’t know White. (Skip to 7:30 of this clip.) That’s ever so slightly different from saying his wife didn’t know about White or that he was sending her cash, but c’mon: If she did know that, don’t you think he would have mentioned it to Blitzer as proof that their friendship was no secret?
Cain said that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, White was “asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.
“She wasn’t the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent’ or whatever the case may be. I don’t remember all the specifics.”…
“My wife now knows,” Cain said. “My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I’m a soft-hearted giving person.”…
He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, “nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that…
Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation, “but I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money.
Supposedly she was desperate for cash, desperate enough that she’d risk ruining the marriage of a friend who’d been sweet enough to give her money by lying in exchange for a payout from some shadowy enemy — yet not so desperate that she’d try to blackmail Cain himself? If that’s true, she has a strange moral code.
Here’s the vid of the Union-Leader interview. Skip ahead to 22:00 and 46:00 for a few questions about White. Cain’s lawyer is pushing back by demanding copies of her phone records to try to prove that she was the one sending most of the texts, but even if that’s true, his polls are what they are. I can understand him wanting to stay in the race on principle if he’s innocent, but his support is now a wasting asset; if he wants to exchange it for something valuable, the sooner he does it, the better. Romney’s desperate to keep Cain’s supporters from bolting for Gingrich so he’d probably offer Cain something in return for an endorsement (Cain endorsed him in 2008, remember), but … what could he offer? A cabinet appointment or ambassadorship requires Senate approval, which would mean new scrutiny from Democrats of the harassment charges, White’s allegations, etc. Plus, endorsing Romney this time would complicate Cain’s brand as an authentic grassroots conservative anti-establishmentarian and he needs that brand to protect his chances at a show on Fox or a new talk-radio gig. Then again, endorsing Gingrich wouldn’t do much for his brand either. If he doesn’t endorse Mitt, then who? (Speaking of Newt, check out our very clever frontrunner turning a question about Cain into a play for social cons.)
One thing Romney has that Cain increasingly needs is campaign cash. According to WaPo, the Cain Train is almost out of steam financially, to the point where they can’t afford to run ads rebutting all the charges against him. If he ends up in debt, Romney could promise to erase his liabilities in return for an endorsement and some appearances on the stump. Obviously, though, that’ll matter much more to Romney when Cain’s still at 10-15 percent than when he’s at five. Tick tock. Click the image to watch.
Can’t see how Cain recovers from this. Suspect, barring the unexpected, we’re looking at a 2 man show; Gingrich/Romney.
Who needs Axelrod and Emmanuel dirty tricks when we’ve got suicidal candidates like this to painstakingly do their work for them.
Upon further reflection....has Politico’s biased witchhunt done us a favor?
I think I need to start drinking really heavy from now till after Nov.....
“we’re looking at a 2 man show; Gingrich/Romney”
Gag...shudder...groan...why why why??? I so wanted us to have a REAL candidate to vote for and get behind.
Excuse Me! If Adultery mattered Newt would be in the same position as Cain.
My candidate was Perry so I started drinking back in September after about the second debate. This is the first time in a long time that I really don't have a candidate at this point in the election cycle. I try to get comfortable with one. I even looked at Huntsman again to see if people were giving him a bum rap (they weren't). I have no idea what to do at this point except quit and go on the dole once Obama is re-elected.
Looks like I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.
A married man just does not give money without wife’s knowledge and approval to an attractive single woman for no reason.
Truth or not is yet to be determined.
Cain’s Wife in Talks to Make Television Appearance
The New York Times ^ | 1 Nov 2011 | JIM RUTENBERG
Posted on 11/1/2011 6:08:44 PM by mandaladon
To: sam_paine
I haven’t seen the woman before and look forward to it. I’m guessing most of America feels the same way. Who’s to say that won’t ADD to his momentum?
6 posted on 11/01/2011 4:24:32 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
To: sam_paine
I think Cain gets momentum because of this story.
7 posted on 11/01/2011 4:26:25 PM PDT by ari-freedom (”Perry: good governor. Romney: Good hair.”-Herman Cain)
Pinging the early thread from exactly one month ago to discuss how rapidly things change, and ask if we can extrapolate (endure) TEN more of these type swings between now and the election with our candidates, such as they are.
My husband and I help the down and outs. We consider many to be our better friends, and it has been a blessing to see some rise from their life’s circumstances. However, some make a living begging for money. They will have an “emergency” and will call several times a day. Then they will call someone else several times a day until they get enough money to last for a while.
A period of time will go by, sometimes months, even years, without a peep from them. Then they will have another “emergency.” Sometimes you just have to cut them off.
Ms White seems like the down and out type. Lin Wood mentioned the number of text messages she made in addition to the ones she made to Herman Cain. It appears she had a network of people who gave her money.
Some down and outs are not faithful friends. They would do anything for money. It looks like White was paid to betray a faithful friend who helped her out financially. It wouldn’t surprise me if one day she calls him up again to help pay her bills. It is a different mindset. That kind doesn’t have a conscience.
Looks like I’m a Newt man now.
Are we talking about the same woman?
I’d say that’s as attractive as Cain will ever get.
January 3, 2012 - Iowa
January 10, 2012 - Newt Hampshire
January 21, 2012 - South Carolina
January 31, 2012 - Florida
Sorry but it's not the adultery. Its the cover-up. Newties is already out and everybody involved knows.
I am very disappointed in Herman. I had such high hopes for him.
Now my candidates are Jack Daniels & Jim Beam. If the economy keeps on this track my candidate will be cheap glue.
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