Bill O’Reilly On New Allegation: ‘I Don’t Think Herman Cain Can Survive Any More Of This’

Mediaite ^ | Nov.28, 2011 | Frances Martel

[Free ThinkerNY]

While Newt Gingrich‘s unexpected rise to the top of the Republican primary ladder had taken the spotlight off of the numerous sexual allegations against Herman Cain for some time, but that problem came barreling back into headlines today as Cain himself broke the news of a new accusation: a thirteen-year affair.

On tonight’s Factor, Bill O’Reilly had some pessimistic remarks on the matter, wondering whether “Herman Cain can survive any more of this.”

Joined by panelists Leslie Marshall and Janine Turner, O’Reilly noted that on his program they were “not going to get into this,” meaning the details of the affair, but did note it “is a legitimate question” whether “Herman Cain can survive any more of this.”

The panelists expressed the same concern, as Turner noted that “especially in a conservative race, it’s going to be tough,” but that “we’ve had wonderful leaders throughout the course of our history that were great thinkers… that had affairs.”

Marshall had a more optimistic approach, noting that things look bad but “between now and November 2012 is a lifetime in politics.”

[DB]

Who the hell are you to say crap like that?

[DB]

“A Contract with the Earth”...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809276/posts

[nathanbedford]

You are right, Obama is trying to raise $1 billion to wage the dirtiest election campaign in American history, not exceeding Jefferson/ Adams or the campaigns against Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln. You are also correct, the media will throw spears on behalf of Obama against any candidate the Republicans put up.

And that is key. The question is not whether there will be ammunition, the question is how well our candidate runs his campaign? My belief is that to some degree Gingrich is inoculated against much of the personal baggage by virtue of time and by virtue of his marriage. Much of the ideological problems which we conservatives raise only tend to help him with Reagan Democrats and independents because he has wandered to the left. In other words, he paints himself as a reasonable man willing to work with the other side etc. etc.which appeals to the mushy middle.

There is also the matter of forensic skills which is a broader subject than mere debating ability. Gingrich has it all in this respect.

Finally, there is only one way to campaign against Obama's well-financed demagoguery and that is to dominate the scene by the force of one's personality. Seize the initiative, frame the issues, Spear Obama, present a vision for rescuing the country. In other words, dominate the board.

No one can do this as well as Gingrich and I believe these skills more than compensate for any vulnerability arising out of his history. That is a subjective opinion on my part but it has carried him far in this primary process.

[Gator113]

“You just got schooled brah “

Not hardly, boy.

WE all know about Newts past issues. It’s your guy that is going to drop out within the next several days.... he might have problems at home that he needs to work on.

Even if he doesn’t, he has already crashed and burned... it’s over for Cain, boy. LOL

LMAO @ you, again.....

Vote for Newt........ he’s going to be our president.

[maine-iac7]

So this women sent 60 harassing phone messages to Cain?

The phone calls are FROM Cain TO her - and the number is verified as his....calls in the wee hours of the nite. He says he was helping her with her finances - which may be true. But that doesn't account for calls in the wee morning hours - nor, if also proven, buying plane tickets to meet him in cities. If she can produce proof there - and the cities match with his visits, what then?

[fightinJAG]

I do apologize for taxing you with a post. However, if you don’t want to (or can’t) respond to a post, simply ignore it. After all, it’s not all about you!

As you know, when someone responds to a post, it is to add to the discussion on the thread. You put a thought on the thread *for everyone to read*. Elaborations on that thought, or rebuttals or rejoinders to that thought, are also put on the thread *for everyone to read*.

I hope you are not claiming you have the right to post whatever you want and then preclude rebuttal and rejoinder that you don’t want.

Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. You don’t get to insulate your comments from comments. If you post something that someone wants to comment on, they have the perfect right to do so.

[maine-iac7]

[RitaOK]

You belabor small and boring points that are VERY old news, that was mostly filtered from all fact in the first place where it originated. Repeating it endlessly could be defined as “jabber”.

[Thunder90]

But, Gingrich will be attacked as viciously as Cain is being now, should Cain become irreverent or sink in the polls again. This would go as far as the MSM and dems paying one (or both) of Newt’s ex-wives to come out and say that Newt beat her/them. The Dems only want Mitt, as they hold a very large ace in the hole against him (IMHO this is something regarding violation of Federal law when Romney was head of Bane Capital). Furthermore, they want Mitt to come out of a brokered convention.

[Gator113]

“I do apologize for taxing you with a post. “

That is as far as I read... bug off.

[hosepipe]

The democrats will commit Tort Masturbation until their “briefs” fall off..
They accused Palin of ridiculous things with zero downside..
Same with Cain...

Time for the House of Reps to Pass Tort reform and shove it down the democrats throat/mouth..
Give press briefings while Reid dithers.. and shelves it..

[DB]

Sorry, I see that you already posted to that thread I linked you to.

[nathanbedford]

I think it is because nominating a candidate for president of the United States is not an exercise in logic but an emotional investment. Above all, in nominating our Paladin we do not want to be embarrassed. Rick Perry betrayed a tendency in the debates to do just that and he was therefore emotionally eliminated.

Rick Santorum, a man of nearly pristine conservative credentials, could not ignite the emotions and therefore never got traction. On paper he or Michelle Bachmann should be the nominees but mere conservative bona fides alone are not enough.

I have three tests: (1) electability; (2) conservative bona fides; (3) vision.

At the end of the game we have to be sold on the idea that our champion has a vision for the country that really matters. That is what the opponents mean when they say it is not enough to run a negative campaign, one must have a positive vision. I think both Santorum and Bachmann have failed to articulate a vision, even though I believe they both have a good sense of where America should go.

When I look at these three tests and I subjectively balance them I am forced to the conclusion that Newt Gingrich is the clear choice from a finite field.

[BenKenobi]

Nonsense. Running Newt, will simply mean that Obama can play BBall till november and still win.

If you are giving Newt a pass, it’s really hypocritical to be savaging Cain over unproven allegations.

[BenKenobi]

“I have three tests: (1) electability; (2) conservative bona fides; (3) vision.”

So you are happy with Newt’s support of amnesty and Newt’s support of anthropogenic global warming, and Newt’s support for O-care?

He’s a disaster on the ‘conservative bona fides’. Really, he is.

[Chunga]

This is why the Gingrich camp has taken to making the weaselly distinction that, unlike Clinton, Gingrich didn't lie "under oath."

Why the quotations around "under oath?" They're unnecessary. Clinton lied under oath, and he was impeached for it. Newt did not lie under oath, and was never impeached for it.

Lying under oath is perjury, and making the distinction isn't "weaselly," as you say, but based in fact.

I like and respect Newt a great deal more than I do the groping, perjuring rapist Bill Clinton and would never allow a disdain for facts to suggest moral equivalence between the two. You?

[ebshumidors]

I know Janine and she is doing more than many to help this country. She started the Constituting America foundation where kids win prizes for essays, etc, about the constition. She is a patriot.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Nope. Just as you posted it. Our data matches.

[maine-iac7]

re the alleged phone calls, you say “And why has no one actually asked to see physical copies? We’re simply believing it’s true”

They HAVE been shown - and the reporter dialed the ‘aledged’ number and it WAS Cain’s.

Sorry bout this - put your little blinders on...starting at minute marker 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjnPNqaP9ss

[maine-iac7]