Posted on 11/14/2011 4:30:15 PM PST by presidio9
The exercise at hand is nominating a Republican candidate, which is going to come down to Romeny vs. "not Romney." If you spend your time attacking every "not Romney" candidate in favor of a Palin fantasy pick, you are essentially helping to ensure that Mitt Romney ends up being your candidate. You are, of course, free to do so, but you should at least be educated on the consequences of your actions. However, if you see no political difference between, say, Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, you are clearly not well informed enough to be posting on this website.
I like what Newt had to say about the budget “super committee” in that it is a farce and never should have been agreed to. Now if Newt would just clarify his postion about global warming.
This is taken from a FRiend's earlier post on another thread:
There have been two conservative revolutions in my lifetime, Ronald Reagan led one of them and Newt Gingrich inspired the other.
There have been four budgets balanced in my lifetime and Newt Gingrich balanced them all.
There have been two historic upset elections in my lifetime for the House of Representatives, Barak Obama caused one of them and Newt Gingrich crafted the other.
Two entitlements, Social Security and welfare have been reformed in my lifetime, the former occurred under Ronald Reagan and the latter was done by Newt Gingrich.
The government has been shut down twice to reduce spending and Gingrich did it both times.
It is easy to find fringe opinion makers to slander someone with a 40 year public record. I have seen FReepers cite the John Birch Society and actually post their video to attack Gingrich. Let us reject the tinfoil hat crowd when seeking references for or against a candidate.
Please RTFT, and then clarify this thought (if you have anything to add).
The only chance we have is with Cain. I just wish my fellow conservatives would not be so quick to abandon the Cain train based on an obvious orchestrated lie by the liberal media. If we don’t stop being so easily swayed by the lib media then we will never be able to nominate our own candidate and may as well turn it over to MSNBC to pick the GOP candidate.
I don't think there are many people here on FR who wouldn't be thrilled to vote for Cain, should he end up as the Republican nominee. Unfortunately, he appears to be losing that chance without any help from this website.
And people scratch their heads wondering how RINOs get into positions of power and then stay entrenched there.
You go right head and hold your nose. I did so in 2008 because of Sarah Palin's presence on that ticket, but I'll never do it again.
Is any of that drivel supposed to mean something to this discussion?
I just wish Sarah would change her mind and give us someone to vote for..........:P
You go right head and hold your nose. I did so in 2008 because of Sarah Palin's presence on that ticket, but I'll never do it again.
To quote Churchill, "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."
If I were given the power to put one candidate in office, that man would be Rick Santorm, but that's not how the system works. Your strategy appears to be to take the ball and go home when things aren't going you way. Again, that is your right. But if you see no difference between Obama and ANY of the Republican candidates, you are not only wrong, you are in direct disagreement with your hero Mark Levin. He consistently says as much on every program. So, again, if you fail to cast your vote for Obama's realistic competitor, you are essentially voting for Obama in order to make your idiotic point.
The American people or certain people on FR?
You mean other than laying to rest the idiotic RINO accusation. Candidate cheerleaders use that charge frequently (and more inappropriately) than the left uses "racist" or "nazi." You may disagree with some of Gingrich's statements or positions, but if you don't accept that he is one of a handful of the heros of modern conservatism, then you just don't know your history.
Since that's not going to happen, it getting down to the wire now, and its about time you gave some serious thought to a pick from among the actual choices presented to you.
So are you planning on pulling that lever for Romney if the GOP manages to force him down Conservative throats as its nominee?
I meant to ping you in to post 43 as a response to this idiotic statement. Post 51 works as well.
Newt mucked that distinction away a long time ago. The FR links I gave you (but you refused to read, much like the bishops at Galileo's trial refusing to look through his telescope) are more than sufficient evidence of his chronic RINOism.
Again, this is the most basic math imaginable: If everybosy gets one vote, and your choices are Romney and Obama, every Romney vote cancels out one Obama vote. If you refuse your opportunity to vote for Romney, you are thereby failing to use your vote to cancel out one vote for Obama, and essentially voting FOR him.
If it comes down to that, I won't be thrilled to be voting for Romney, just as I wasn't thrilled to be voting for McCain, but of course I will do so. Your write-in nonsense means that you will be voting for Obama. Good luck with that.
Again, when you keep throwing around that RINO charge inappropriately, it loses all meaning.
And let's put the suggestion that I "refused to read" anything to bed once and for all too. Putting aside the fact that several of the stories you linked were out of date and irrelevant, there's nothing stopping me from countering that suggestion (if I wished) by simply posting the links to 100 (or 1000) pro-Gingrich articles and demanding you read them all. I hope you are bright enough to see the futility of such an exercise. If you have a specific point to make, make it yourself. Or summarize it in such a fashion that the intent becomes immediately available. Headlines at virtually all major publications (including supposed conservative ones) are notoriously fashioned by liberals, and should therefore be regarded with caution.
Gingrich on global warming ad with Pelosi: ‘The dumbest single thing I’ve done in years’
Does this help?
I figured as much. You go right on ahead and hold your nose and do that. And then you will undoubtedly be among those complaining in subsequent years about how we can never get rid of the RINOs who plague the Conservative movement.
Thank you for contributing to the never-ending cycle.
“Newt is going to have a harder fall than Cain or Perry given his past flip flops. These flip flops, ethics scandals, and personal scandals will be front-page news in the next few weeks.”
Why? It is old news and well known. Newt’s past is out there and not hidden. Apparently, folks like his style and are not concerned about his past screw ups. I’m not saying this is right, but just the way it is.
He generates an aura of self-confidence and no need to bellittle opponents; the tactic is working. Plus, he is best qualified, as a debater, to rip and tear up Obama in debates. No wonder he is climbing.
Plus, he does not really propose any radical departures from the past, just responsible spending.
He is indeed looking more attractive as the “anti-Romney” all the time.
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