Posted on 11/12/2011 5:14:37 PM PST by Winged Hussar
Former Pittsburgh Steelers running back and Penn State alum Franco Harris blasted the school's Board of Trustees for its decision to fire Joe Paterno and defended Mike McQueary, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.
"I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go," Harris told the Tribune-Review's Kevin Gorman. "I'm very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.
"They really wouldn't give a reason. They're linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover-up. That's very disturbing to me.
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Why smear Franco Harris?
I’m not talking about Sandusky. Neither were you in post #17.
Of course they need proof.
But that doesn’t mean a citizen shouldn’t add their information to the pile of evidence that the police already have. As a citizen, you’re going in blind. You don’t know what the police know. All you know is a crime has been committed. And in this instance, you know its a serious crime!
Paterno had the conversation with McQueary. He could have pointed the police to McQueary. McQueary would have told them what he had seen.
Paterno didn’t do that, though. He sat on it and only informed those up the chain.
He had a MORAL RESPONSIBILITY to inform the police.
So did McQueary.
Ideally, if anyone would have acted like a MAN and BEHAVED LIKE A MAN... McQueary could have rescued that child and then he should have gone to the police IMMEDIATELY. The police would have been hunting for Sandusky on the night of that rape.
People say, “Oh, you can’t say that! You don’t know what you would have done.”
If Sandusky had been raping a sixteen year old girl in the parking lot, would it be a morality play as to whether or not McQueary should have stepped in? EVERYONE would say that he should have done so!
They failed those children a thousand times over.
How many children were victimized for years because NO ONE STOOD UP AND ACTED LIKE A MAN?
The boys were falsely accused.
Neither was an issue of 'hearsay'.
When this is done, they tear down his statue.
Your presence outside the religion forum is something of a rarity, vlad. I only know you as an ardent, even vehement defender of all things Catholic.
Which leads me to ask why the strong attachmetn to Franco Harris. He’s no political conservative, so that’s not it.
What could it be, what could it be? Franco Harris, he of the Immaculate Reception, Italian mother, African-American father, reportedly honorable board member of The Second Mile?
I’m stumped, I tell you.
There are a lot of people in Pennsylvania who really really like Joe Paterno and Penn State Football and have for 40 years. Middle aged people who have lived there all their lives, have loved Paterno all their lives.
They’re having trouble adjusting to the new set of circumstances.
They’re having cognitive dissonance. They just don’t believe it.
I’m from Central PA, most of my facebook friends are Central PA. Right now, they’re all on the right side of the issue, but it took a couple of them a couple of days. But they’re on the right side of it now.
They wanted to defend Paterno more than they wanted to defend Penn State Football, and once Paterno was gone, pretty much all the defense was gone.
No reason to defend any more.
Burn PSU to the ground.
In the Duke case, a stripper claimed to be raped and they cancelled the season. It turns out the stripper was lying.
Why are they still playing football?
Why has the season not been cancelled?
I’m not paying extremely close attention to these details, because it’s gross. But apparently the first faggot rape took place 10 years ago, and just now the story comes out.
And the faggot kept on raping for 10 years? Or something like that?
Yes, Paterno followed PSU procedures (or not). But it should’ve been clear to Paterno that the procedures weren’t working, because the faggot kept raping for years. He knows this because the faggot wasn’t in jail.
If someone is saying why was Paterno fired, hundreds of people should be fired, the football program should be shut down, maybe even the university should be shut down.
If your only question is "where did Joe Paterno testify," the answer is that he testified before the Grand Jury. What appears in the Grand Jury Presentment and is couched as "Paterno said" or anything like that is based on sworn testimony by Joe Paterno before the Grand Jury.
I'm coming to the conclusion that McQueary had only two options.
Were you aware that Joe Paterno was a literature major at Brown? One would assume that an Ivy League literature major is familiar with Edmund Burke, who said:
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
You wrote:
“Which leads me to ask why the strong attachmetn to Franco Harris.”
I have none.
“He’s no political conservative, so that’s not it.”
Nope.
“What could it be, what could it be?”
Truth.
“Franco Harris, he of the Immaculate Reception, Italian mother, African-American father, reportedly honorable board member of The Second Mile?”
Nope. I just think there’s something sick about Freepers accusing Harris of being a homosexual just because he doesn’t like the decision of the board.
“I’m stumped, I tell you.”
Probably because you don’t mind maligning people yourself as you have done in the Religion Forum often enough.
Enough with the histrionics. . .the media has already piled it high enough to cover Beaver Stadium. Joe is being railroaded and the press is INTENTIONALLY misrepresenting the timeline of events so as to make it appear that Joe Paterno is culpable. . which gives the story more sizzle, more ratings, more MONEY!!
The FIRST incident was in 1999. . at that time Joe notified the Administration and they brought in the police and it was investigated. The case was resolved with Sandusky "retiring" as coach. However, the administration allowed Sandusky to still have access to certain athletic facilities on campus. This WAS NOT PATERNO'S DECISION. . this was the school's decision. Then in 2002, coach McQuery is a witness to Sandusky molesting a second boy. AT THIS TIME, MCQUERY SHOULD HAVE INTERVENED AND PROTECTED THE BOY FROM SANDUSKY. . he did not, and for this he deserves to be criticized. It was AFTER THE FACT that McQueary informs, first his father and THEN, Paterno. At that time, Paterno notifies the school administration of this second event. Joe DOES THE RIGHT THING!. . .now the people are confusing Joe with what McQueary did. Joe was not in a position to help the boy OR TO NOTIFY THE POLICE. . .you don't notify the police because somebody told you a crime took place. . .THAT'S LUDICROUS! Joe did the right thing by notifying the administration. Sandusky WAS NO LONGER A COACH WITH PATERNO. It was the school's responsibility to deal with this problem. Joe did his part.
It saddens me that such a fine man as Joe Paterno, a man of impeccable character, a leader of men, an icon of how to do it right, who graduated more student-athletes than just about any other coach, a man who literally brought millions of dollars to help build Penn State as one of the finest institutions of higher learning in the nation. . .is just striped to the bone in an instant JUST TO SATISFY THE INSATIABLE MEDIA LUSTING FOR MORE RATINGS. HOW SAD FOR JOE PATERNO and for America.
Paterno's not the criminal. . Sandusky IS. . .LETS DIRECT OUR WRATH WHERE IT BELONGS. . .ON THE FRIGGEN CRIMINAL. . .
Screwing a 16 year old girl in PA is not a crime.
There is nothing particularly twisted or sick about it.
Sandusky shoulda been fired just for being a fag.
In terms of “what Paterno should’ve done”. I like the administrative approach. But at some point he should’ve realized that Sandusky wasn’t being punished, and then should’ve stepped forward.
Faggot rape is much much worse than normal rape. And people don’t seem to get that.
. This doesn’t mean I did nothing, and Paterno also did something; something prudent and responsible instead of turning into a loose cannon...
...look, this whole thing is very simple...and it has little to do with whether Paterno did the right or wrong thing...the truth is, he was the acknowledged leader of the PSU football program, the captain of the ship...and what happens to the captain of a ship that runs aground and costs the ship’s owners money and prestige? He is terminated, whether or not he caused the accident...there are many instances of bus drivers, tug boat skippers, and other such types being relieved of duty after accidents even though it can’t be proved they were the immediate cause...do you think Captain Smith of the Titanic would have retained his postion had he survived...or just think of the officers who walked the plank after the Tailhook incident, some who weren’t even there, yet suffered ignominy...nobody ever said being the head of an operation would be easy...or even fair...as it is often neither...
“Protocol isn’t the issue, morality is.
The ones without a brains are those who are defending someone who allowed a sex pervert to walk around on the campus 9 years after he was told he was in the shower with a young boy.”
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You are absolutely correct.
When you see a sleazy perverted old bastard forcing himself upon a child there should be only 3 things on your mind.
1. Protect and defend the child with your life if necessary.
2. Protect and defend the child with your life if necessary.
3. Protect and defend the child with your life if necessary.
Throw ALL the legal ramifications out the window. That is not the time to consider what lawyers may do. At that point it has become your time to do battle with EVIL.
There are some folks here who I believe are way over thinking this. It’s really not that complicated. At least not for me.
“Maligning people” ie personal attacks are not permitted by the mods on the FR religion forum as you well know, vlad.
I knew that.
I believe all he cared about was football and his $1,000,000 a year salary.
I say that because I believe he shared this information with his wife. He talked to her about it. It was a big part of his life because Sandusky was EVERYWHERE, he wasn’t swept off into a dark corner, forgotten.
And if he shared with his wife the information that he knew about Sandusky, it was a part of his personal life. Sandusky came into their conversations when they were seated alone on the back deck. Pedophilia was a in their private conversations as a couple.
And still, Paterno didn’t get angry, disgusted, or outraged enough to do the right thing and remove Sandusky from the inner sanctum of Penn State football. Nor did he turn himself inside out to see that the sonofabitch was prosecuted.
Disgraceful. They were right to boot Paterno.
If on the Sunday morning that McQueery came to visit Paterno, McQueery reported that he had witnessed Paterno’s statue or office being vandalized the night before, I find it inconceivable that there would not have been an immediate call to the campus police instead of waiting ‘til Monday to report it to the AD, and VP.
So you're saying that the guards at Auschwitz were reporting the murders of Jews to their superiors?
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