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A Second Term for Obama Would Make the United States Go as California Has Gone
Real Clear Politics ^ | Oct 8, 2011 | Rep. Tom McClintock

Posted on 10/09/2011 1:42:39 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla

welcome...to the savage lands of the Left Coast. You are here in California to answer an important theoretical question and now you have your answer.

Yes, this is what Barack Obama’s second term would look like.

Study it. Fear it. And then go home and make sure that it never happens to the rest of the country.

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the tale of how, in the span of a single generation, the most prosperous and golden state in the nation became an economic basket case.
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The political Left gradually gained dominance over California’s government and has imposed a disastrous agenda of radical and retrograde policies that have destroyed the quality of life that Californians once took for granted.
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I submit to you that no conceivable act of God could wreak such devastation. Only acts of government can do that. And they have.
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Our regulatory burdens are also years ahead of the rest of the nation – we’ve had our own version of Cap and Trade on the books for five years now, and even though the bulk of these restrictions yet to take effect, investors make decisions every day anticipating their impact.

This has already proven utterly devastating to energy generation, cargo and passenger transportation, cement production, construction, wine making, agriculture and manufacturing. When he signed this legislation, Gov. Schwarzenegger promised that this would produce a cornucopia of new green jobs.

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But I need to remind you that the Obama administration is pursuing exactly the same policies nationally – and so far with the same results.
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The humility...gave way to the hubris that the state knew better...at the core of this breakdown was the abandonment of our basic republican structure of government – and it began. right. here.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


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To: Avoiding_Sulla

And electing a Republican who is little different would be worse as we would lack the collective will to oppose such a pretender.


41 posted on 10/09/2011 10:58:54 AM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Ditter

“I like Cain but he has no political experience, he is used to being boss, his way or the highway. How is that going to work with the congress?”

I hear you, but I think that Cain is a better listener than Perry could ever be, simply because of that heartless comment. He simply cannot tolerate being told he’s wrong.


42 posted on 10/09/2011 11:17:09 AM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: factoryrat
California is a mess.
In the 70s you couldn't find trash. Now as you get closer to any Hispanic population the amounts of trash grows as you get closer to them.
Go North towards Canada and there is none, go south towards Mexico and it is a dump.
That is the truth, and our social systems in a big way support Mexico as well.
43 posted on 10/09/2011 11:20:35 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BobL

You are reading minds again Bob. You don’t know that Cain would be a better listener than Perry. Perry has a record and he has listened and changed what he was doing.

If I was into mind reading I might think that Cain would not listen at all. The big boss doesn’t have to listen.


44 posted on 10/09/2011 11:25:10 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Waywardson; MrEdd
Well, you two and I make three. I've been saying what you said for so long -- it's implied in my FReepname -- that I'm tired of feeling isolated. So I'm very happy to make your acquaintance after all this time. Now, how can we grow our group? Surely it's not in focusing on smaller differences (surely we have them) -- cuz the tyrants will surely exploit them.

I aim to be pretty consistent. Here's my most recent commentary that fits in with your thinkings, Had Enough of Good GOP, Bad GOP Yet?, and an excerpt:


45 posted on 10/09/2011 11:25:37 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Ditter

“You are reading minds again Bob. You don’t know that Cain would be a better listener than Perry. Perry has a record and he has listened and changed what he was doing.”

Whatever, Perry’s toast anyway. I don’t really need to spend much more time on him...but it’s just fun.


46 posted on 10/09/2011 11:59:35 AM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: BobL

What else do you do for fun Bob? Do you start fires, stomp puppies, make prank calls? You don’t sound like a very fun guy. Who did you say you are supporting?


47 posted on 10/09/2011 12:09:39 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

“What else do you do for fun Bob? Do you start fires, stomp puppies, make prank calls? You don’t sound like a very fun guy. Who did you say you are supporting?”

Getting a bit personal here - I guess our discussion is over.


48 posted on 10/09/2011 12:13:59 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: South40

(from Post 47...)

“What else do you do for fun Bob? Do you start fires, stomp puppies, make prank calls? You don’t sound like a very fun guy. Who did you say you are supporting?”

I see what you mean South40, thanks for the advice with these types.


49 posted on 10/09/2011 12:16:25 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: BobL

Aw come on, tell us who you like in the race. Don’t go away mad.


50 posted on 10/09/2011 12:17:01 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: BobL

lol! To a tee!!


51 posted on 10/09/2011 12:28:14 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: Ditter
The big boss doesn’t have to listen.
That's what all Democrats believe, anyway.

52 posted on 10/09/2011 1:58:14 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
So why did he not salute the TEA party movement in any way given how its sentiments drove that win? He gave not hint of the TEA party in anyway.

Tom has been with the Tea Party movement since it's beginning. He has given many speeches celebrating that spirit, and he has attended quite a few Tea Party events as the only elected official many of those organizers were willing to include. Go back and search for "McClintock" and "tea Party" on Google. It's easy to do, and something you should have done before even bringing up the topic.

53 posted on 10/09/2011 2:30:37 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

Love Tom McClintock and am lucky enough to live in his district.

But when Tom was running here the first time to take Doolittle’s seat, I didn’t know who he was. I was on the East Coast when he ran for governor. And the ads made him look like some carpetbagger. I was undecided about voting at all until I got a call from the Ron Paul campaign saying that Tom was a good guy and “a man of integrity”. Since RP doesn’t hand out that label very easily, I voted for Tom. Very glad that I did!

I have never had a Congressman who stays so in touch, with face to face Townhalls every few months and teletephone Townhalls every month. If you want his ear, you’ve got it. And the guy gives brilliant speeches and puts his vote where his mouth is.

Always thought that he’d have made a great president, but his interests don’t seem to point in that direction.


54 posted on 10/09/2011 3:50:49 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I asked why he did not mention the TEA party in this speech. This was a moderately long speech, and there was plenty of opportunity for him to indicate the importance of the independents like myself.

It is not rocket science to know that there is no love lost between the SKUNCs and the TEA party because their aims are different. Boehner hears it and snubs it regularly in between crying jags.

Because Tom must live with the SKUNCs for now, I do understand there might be some heat. That is my concern that there was heat. We need to know and not just suspect. Too much wiggle room. I’m on Tom’s campaign donor list. I’d like to stay there.


55 posted on 10/09/2011 4:10:11 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
There is only one glaring missing element that I find troubling as it would appear to be a deliberate avoidance. I am hoping one of you can explain it. Tom lauds in the speech the GOP wins since the last election cycle. So why did he not salute the TEA party movement in any way given how its sentiments drove that win? He gave not hint of the TEA party in anyway.

Because he was speaking to all Californians, not just the Tea Party or Republicans.

I was at the April 15th 2009 Tea Party in Sacramento and Tom was the only politician invited to speak there. Tom also has the endorsement of the Republican Liberty Caucus - -which is a libertarian leaning Republican organization.

The word "Tea Party" these days can mean a lot of things to different people. It isn't like it was a couple of years ago.

56 posted on 10/09/2011 4:19:30 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

“Because he was speaking to all Californians, not just the Tea Party or Republicans.”

No, not this particular speech. He was speaking to visitors and warning them that what has happened here (and to the CAGOP) could easily happen in their states.

And I made it pretty damn clear what I mean by TEA party movement. One because I have replaced RINO with SKUNC, which makes the threat far more clear. I am talking about the MOVEMENT that wants a no uncertain backing off from the current Statist, Agenda21 thrust that the ruling class is pressing.

Also, any hint of condescension really pisses us off.


57 posted on 10/09/2011 4:30:53 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Also, any hint of condescension really pisses us off.

Not sure where you picked that up from, because it was certainly not coming from me.

58 posted on 10/09/2011 4:37:20 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

I have no idea what a “SKUNC” is.


59 posted on 10/09/2011 4:41:27 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

No, I’m sorry. It wasn’t coming from you. But it constantly comes from those in office or from those who work from them. I consider it pretty important that independents be reassured regularly. We’ve had the rug pulled out from under us too often. Indeed, much as Tom had done to him for much of the time since the national GOP inserted themselves into the CAGOP in 2002. There have been, and are, too few as good as him.


60 posted on 10/09/2011 4:48:34 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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