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Why Young Americans Can't Think Morally
Jewish World Review ^ | Sept. 20, 2011 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 09/20/2011 9:08:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Last week, David Brooks of The New York Times wrote a column on an academic study concerning the nearly complete lack of a moral vocabulary among most American young people. Below are some excerpts from Brooks' summary of the study of Americans aged 18 to 23. (It was led by "the eminent Notre Dame sociologist Christian Smith.")

"Smith and company asked about the young people's moral lives, and the results are depressing …

"When asked to describe a moral dilemma they had faced, two-thirds of the young people either couldn't answer the question or described problems that are not moral at all …

"Moral thinking didn't enter the picture, even when considering things like drunken driving, cheating in school or cheating on a partner …

"The default position, which most of them came back to again and again, is that moral choices are just a matter of individual taste …

"As one put it, 'I mean, I guess what makes something right is how I feel about it. But different people feel different ways, so I couldn't speak on behalf of anyone else as to what's right and wrong …

"Morality was once revealed, inherited and shared, but now it's thought of as something that emerges in the privacy of your own heart."

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: culturaldecline; dennisprager; ethics; moralabsolutes; morality; prager; youngamericans
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To: ReformationFan
Ten Commandments

Civility is now subjective. And all Democrats rejoice.

21 posted on 09/20/2011 10:44:08 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: keats5; Monterrosa-24; BenKenobi
Ben and I are in the early 30s bunch and speaking humbly we buck the trend. The reasons for this paganism are clear:

  1. the spread of television, where TV is the new church/god
  2. the degeneration of tv shows -- even ones like Friends (which I like) still show a degenerate lifestyle as ok, forget about big brother etc
  3. the spread of mall culture where the aim is aimlessness
  4. the spread of the idea that marriage is for trial -- the "easy divorce"
  5. the concept that not only is sleeping before marriage ok, but you SHOULD do it, you SHOULD stay with someone before marriage to "test" otherwise something is wrong with you -- this and the previous point degenerate marriage
  6. The lack of clear, hard rules since the 60s --> kids like rules, they like to push them, but they like them. Without rules they are unhappy themselves

The downward trend has been in place since the 60s and the 60s gen really started it, now they wonder what happened.

22 posted on 09/21/2011 12:07:13 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: doc1019

there is a solution — toss out the tv.


23 posted on 09/21/2011 12:08:26 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Jonty30
our society has achieved many advancements and we’ve managed to minimize the consequences of bad behaviour.

I agree with the latter but not the former -- why should increasing advancements lead to moral decay?

24 posted on 09/21/2011 12:09:19 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Norm Lenhart
No one was physically hurt or financially harmed he said

it's due to the rise of big governments and corporations. you don't hit a person when you steal -- unlike say if you steal from the neighborhood shop, you steal from Mr. Jones, but when you steal from a corp, or don't pay taxes, you steal from some formless entity. It becomes "ok"

25 posted on 09/21/2011 12:11:30 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Exton1; Quix
Without Religion there is no evil one man will not do against another. Religion is the link to the past that help s us keep our morality. This is a result of over 60 years of the attack on Christianity.

And yet there are those who say Religion or as they call it "Churchianity" is the problem.

26 posted on 09/21/2011 12:16:42 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Cronos

In times past, consequences for terrible behavious could be swift, unrelenting, and unmerciful. When past societies thought it was a good idea to be married and faithful, it was because if you got syphillis, everybody got syphillis and it could mean certain death for the entire community. So yeah, your community was very much invested in trying to ensure that people practiced behavious that didn’t have serious consequences.

Now, for example, when AIDS first revealed itself, if you got it, you’d die a horrible death with 3 years. So there was a lot of pressure within the gay and drug communities to change their behaviours to minimize the chances of catching it and spreading it.

However, now that we’ve developed treatments that allows somebody to live 25 years with it, many gays and druggies have resumed former dangerous behaviours without a care in the world.


27 posted on 09/21/2011 12:22:46 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
good point. I thought you were talking about other technological advancements

The AIDS treatment was put into high-gear. Imagine if we had spent as much money on trying to prevent cholera or malaria or typhoid which kills millions more...

28 posted on 09/21/2011 12:59:01 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: keats5

Yet God knew exactly how they would think and believe, before He even created them!


29 posted on 09/21/2011 2:08:45 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: LomanBill

What happens when people have differing self-evidential Truths?


30 posted on 09/21/2011 2:11:53 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: lurk

The elderly are the ones who raised them. There are consequences for their choices.


31 posted on 09/21/2011 2:21:49 AM PDT by DB
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To: ReformationFan

Bad Parenting...even worse Teaching......No GOD or Jesus in their lives.....truly we are witnessing the end.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 2:54:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cronos
The downward trend has been in place since the 60s and the 60s gen really started it, now they wonder what happened.

Actually,the "pill" started it by removing all sense of responsibility from men. If it failed (as it often did) then she was reviled for "entrapping" the man. The so-called "women's movement" followed which preached that the female was entitled to everything men had -- free (irresponsible) sex, any job they wanted, disloyalty to partner and employer, etc., etc.

Living together before marriage became expected. Don't all couples fight from time to time? How does a family survice those fights if it is just a trial? What happens to the children when the parents decide the trial is over? They certainly haven't learned the concept of loyalty from the grand experiment.

33 posted on 09/21/2011 3:21:29 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Cronos

Actually, I see those as just more symptoms of what has really gone wrong.

The removal of God from societal and cultural conversation and His replacement with the false god of government telling us what is politically correct.


34 posted on 09/21/2011 3:29:22 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: keats5

Yep. And if our children have become pagans we have allowed it. The fault rests at the feet of parents who lost their own morals and then abdicated their responsibility and parental authority to day care workers, the K through college school system, celebrities, and government.


35 posted on 09/21/2011 3:58:46 AM PDT by carmody
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To: ReformationFan

There was a comedian on the Comedy channel over the weekend telling jokes about abortion. I didn’t know which to be more appalled at - her jokes or the audience laughing. The progressive socialists have successfully dehumanized a generation of Americans. To them abortion is funny. They want to save the polar bear but joke about killing humans.


36 posted on 09/21/2011 4:20:02 AM PDT by carmody
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To: Monterrosa-24

It’s this kind of stupidity that lead to the Casey Anthony verdict. These people simply cannot think.


37 posted on 09/21/2011 4:20:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: doc1019

Even commercials are described as “sexy”...toothpaste, shampoo, cars, etc. The world is upside down! Bring back the fire & brimstone!!


38 posted on 09/21/2011 4:26:04 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: ReformationFan
So all this has dawned on David Brooks? Where's he been? The clear-thinking recognized it for what it is back in the 1960s.

If he is just coming to this realization now, David has a very dim bulb to work with.

The basic moral flaw is mendacity--contempt for truth. This emerged as a force in the 1960s, fundamental to the counter-culture movement, which was the overt emergence of American decadence. The foundation of the counter-culture movement was self-indulgence, and it found mendacity and moral sloppiness convenient. Today, American decadence is a predominant influence in the U.S.A., and the results are obvious; look around. For a quick look at what mendacity and moral sloppiness are, turn on the TV set to any mainstream news channel.

39 posted on 09/21/2011 4:35:16 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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To: lurk
"...and when these young people get into the position to decide the fate of the elderly in a few years, how do you think they’ll do?"

About like the counter-culture hippies did when they got into the position to control the Democrat Party and run the U.S.A.

40 posted on 09/21/2011 4:38:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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