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To: keats5; Monterrosa-24; BenKenobi
Ben and I are in the early 30s bunch and speaking humbly we buck the trend. The reasons for this paganism are clear:

  1. the spread of television, where TV is the new church/god
  2. the degeneration of tv shows -- even ones like Friends (which I like) still show a degenerate lifestyle as ok, forget about big brother etc
  3. the spread of mall culture where the aim is aimlessness
  4. the spread of the idea that marriage is for trial -- the "easy divorce"
  5. the concept that not only is sleeping before marriage ok, but you SHOULD do it, you SHOULD stay with someone before marriage to "test" otherwise something is wrong with you -- this and the previous point degenerate marriage
  6. The lack of clear, hard rules since the 60s --> kids like rules, they like to push them, but they like them. Without rules they are unhappy themselves

The downward trend has been in place since the 60s and the 60s gen really started it, now they wonder what happened.

22 posted on 09/21/2011 12:07:13 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Cronos
The downward trend has been in place since the 60s and the 60s gen really started it, now they wonder what happened.

Actually,the "pill" started it by removing all sense of responsibility from men. If it failed (as it often did) then she was reviled for "entrapping" the man. The so-called "women's movement" followed which preached that the female was entitled to everything men had -- free (irresponsible) sex, any job they wanted, disloyalty to partner and employer, etc., etc.

Living together before marriage became expected. Don't all couples fight from time to time? How does a family survice those fights if it is just a trial? What happens to the children when the parents decide the trial is over? They certainly haven't learned the concept of loyalty from the grand experiment.

33 posted on 09/21/2011 3:21:29 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Cronos

Actually, I see those as just more symptoms of what has really gone wrong.

The removal of God from societal and cultural conversation and His replacement with the false god of government telling us what is politically correct.


34 posted on 09/21/2011 3:29:22 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Cronos
The downward trend has been in place since the 60s and the 60s gen really started it, now they wonder what happened.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Again.....Let's look at Bill Ayers and his wife. They are in positions of power as “distinguished” professors and community organizers because MARXIST progressives of my father and grandmother's generation put them there!

The godless, socialist, progressive, Marxist rot has been eating away at the foundations of American society since **before** John Dewey in the 1800s. The 1960 was merely an inflammation that had been festering for a long time blooming into a full=blown abscess.

Please remember that all modern government schooling has been socialist from the beginning ( mid-1800s to early 1900s). It has been godlessly secular since my grandmother's day ( born 1894), and utter atheistic in its worldview since the 1960s. Why are we surprised that our nation is in a crises and our citizens can no longer reason rationally?

45 posted on 09/21/2011 5:12:11 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Cronos

Speak for yourself but I’m 29 :p

Thanks for the compliment Cronos. :) You’re not so shabby yourself.


47 posted on 09/21/2011 5:19:12 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: Cronos
The lack of clear, hard rules since the 60s —> kids like rules, they like to push them, but they like them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Please remember that Bill Ayers and his wife are distinguish professors in top named and highly influential universities because people of my parents and grandparents’ generations PUT THEM THERE. My dad was born in 1913 and my grandmother in 1894.

I attended Catholic schools until the 10th grade and government school in a “good” area for 11th and 12th. I graduated in 1964.

Even in the 50s and 60s there were teachers ( both Catholic and other) who were “edgy” and “kool” and ( oh so!) modern and pushing the envelope in reading assignments and class discussions. Please remember that these teachers in the 1950s and 1960s were trained by **progressives** who were born in the 1800s.

Godless, secularist, and Marxist dry rot has been eating away at our nation for more than a 150 years! It just “bloomed” in the 60s.

53 posted on 09/21/2011 5:49:58 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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