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1 posted on 09/15/2011 11:23:36 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

People seem to forget that when Bush lifted the moratorium on drilling, that prices dropped right away — even though people kept saying “oh noes! We won’t see any of that for a long time in the future because it can take 10 years!”

It is not about supply, it is about perception of supply. Open up drilling and “poof!” speculators are running to the nearest door and the price drops.

That simple.


2 posted on 09/15/2011 11:34:27 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: neverdem

Fifty-cent gas is entirely possible.


3 posted on 09/15/2011 11:34:36 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: neverdem

You’re not going to achieve anything long-term by messing around with the market.

I agree lifting the moratorium is important, but other than that let the market do its thing.


4 posted on 09/15/2011 11:38:56 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: neverdem

He’s fine right until he talks about methanol. One reason methanol hasn’t really taken off is because someone noticed that burning methanol in an internal combustion engine grossly increased the formaldehyde exhaust of the engine. Whoops.


5 posted on 09/15/2011 11:55:20 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: neverdem
Since 1973, this cartel(OPEC), which controls 80 percent of the earth’s commercially viable oil reserves,

Not to mention the control it has in Washington. Stir that in the with influence that in with the Greenies and their wholesale myths and propaganda which makes the struggle cheaper energy a long uphill battle. Good luck.

6 posted on 09/16/2011 12:56:16 AM PDT by oyez ( America is being pimped.)
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To: neverdem

The fastest way to kill high gasoline prices is to enact tax legislation that requires that the appropriate weight class vehicles have true multi=fule engines that can run on either gasoline or natural gas. We’ve got so much natural gas in this country we’re starting to export it in much bigger quantites.

The deep shale drilling which has been continuing even with the other obstacles to drilling has produced a huge over supply of natural gas that is going to become much larger.


7 posted on 09/16/2011 1:04:26 AM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: neverdem

Trite, with a side of bias.

Drill here, drill now, drill everywhere there is U.S. oil, NO exceptions.


8 posted on 09/16/2011 1:05:31 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: neverdem

Great find, thanks! At first I thought this can’t possibly be the same Robert Zubrin whose every public utterance has to do with getting us to Mars, but it is him! And this is his plan to make oil obsolete and break the back of both OPEC and the islamic terrorists it supports. Do that, and the world can begin moving forward again. I like it. I like it a lot.


9 posted on 09/16/2011 1:15:42 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: neverdem

This is BS. We actually have all the oil we need for the next 300 years or so if we would only get it out of the ground. Drilling now and allowing new refineries to be built would indeed drop the price of oil. In fact the mere threat of us doing so has dropped prices in the past. Flex fuel engines might help but drilling is the main answer.


13 posted on 09/16/2011 2:44:28 AM PDT by calex59
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To: neverdem
Methanol? I hear it is as corrosive as all get up, nasty stuff worst that the Ethanol in our gasoline now....

He forgot to mention:

* Austrailia has a HUGE push towards LPG in cars, their are some big win - win technological advances that make it a reality under the hood. I.E. they are keeping it a liquid all the way to the injector ( some in Europe already doing it to the "Direct Injector") and the change of phase of state drops temperatures of the combustion chamber and you can up the compression ratio or dial up the turbo. Smaller engine, more power, cleaner emissions, and they have closed the gaps on fuel economy.
* JP fuels via the Fisher Tropsch process of converting coal to diesel. It could be done for $25 a barrel.

14 posted on 09/16/2011 2:45:55 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: neverdem

Gas would be a lot cheaper than $2 per gallon if the U.S. extracted and processed its own.


16 posted on 09/16/2011 4:01:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: neverdem

save


17 posted on 09/16/2011 4:09:18 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: neverdem

IMHO..the major part of the problem, is that 535 freakin’ idjits on Capitol Hill have more to do with gasoline prices than the guys who know how to drill and refine.


20 posted on 09/16/2011 4:29:22 AM PDT by mo
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To: neverdem

Nothing like requiring vehicles to run on your favorite energy product.

Jeeeezz.

Let the market work, Neocons!


21 posted on 09/16/2011 4:44:23 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: neverdem
The writer appears ignorant of the dollar value issue in oil trading. When you print more dollars the dollars to buy a barrel of oil go up.
22 posted on 09/16/2011 5:23:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem

Simple, you buy oil you pay for it and you take delivery, before you resell it. And you have no insurable interest until you take physical control. Price will drop to $2.00 a gal or lower in hours.


23 posted on 09/16/2011 5:39:48 AM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: neverdem

Why not shoot for $1.77, the price when O took office?


24 posted on 09/16/2011 5:46:04 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (welcome dies irae)
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To: neverdem

2$ gas...Not while obama is president!


25 posted on 09/16/2011 5:59:08 AM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: neverdem
Besides methanol, diesel engines can be converted to run on Liquified Natural Gas (LNG).
26 posted on 09/16/2011 6:09:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: neverdem

“The United States has only 4 billion tons of oil reserves, but we have 270 billion tons of coal, vast amounts of natural gas, and an enormous capacity to produce biomass.”

Faulty analogy. The question is: how many gallons of fuel are created per ton of raw material? What is the energy density of said fuel? What is the extraction and refinement cost of said fuel?

(1 gallon of ethanol <> 1 gallon of gas in terms of energy density.)


27 posted on 09/16/2011 6:49:06 AM PDT by bolobaby
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