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1 posted on 09/14/2011 2:38:33 PM PDT by Nachum
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Sounds like a ... wait for it ... PONZI scheme. however saying out loud is contraindicated if you’re running for office.


2 posted on 09/14/2011 2:41:14 PM PDT by MetaThought
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He is correct; it is rare to hear a democrat tell the truth.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 2:41:22 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a small monthly donor.)
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He’s 100% correct. Soc Security is a law.It’s been changed over the years,for increased benefits, and ret ages have also been raised. Any Congress and POTUS can end SS with one enactment and signature.


4 posted on 09/14/2011 2:43:45 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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It’s true. The government has successfully argued as much before the Supreme Court.

Social Security is nothing but another tax. There is no constitutional obligation on the government’s part to pay you anything.

People need to understand this. The members of my generation will likely never see a dime of SS.


5 posted on 09/14/2011 2:45:04 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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if it was legally binding, we would be instantly broke


8 posted on 09/14/2011 2:45:42 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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Well then, if the government doesn’t have to pay benefits, then I don’t have to pay into SS. Sure would give me extra money in my pocket. The other thing that sticks in my craw is that we have to wait til 65 to ALL of OUR MONEY. If you apply at 62 you only get 75%. What part of MY MONEY aren’t they clear on? Oh, and while we’re at it, maybe we, the taxpayers, can decide which Congress critter’s salary and benefits we pay for. Some of the Democrat staffers don’t like to take my call if I’m from out of their boss’ district. Well, then why am I paying for him or her?


9 posted on 09/14/2011 2:47:34 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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I strongly suggest that the Congressman is in error.

Since SS and Medicare have mandatory amounts deducted from wages, that obligates the Government agency to the provisions of the social security and medicare statutes.

I doubt any of the provisions have a rider or provision that exempts the US Government from paying out those benefits when an individual meets the requirements.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 2:47:55 PM PDT by TomGuy
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in other words... It's just ANOTHER TAX then!!!
11 posted on 09/14/2011 2:51:09 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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It’s gonna take an awful lot of stout rope to rectify this situation. Steal money from both me and my employers for the last fifty years and then tell me they have no obligation to pay me back?
Have the lumber and nails delivered down there on the mall. We’re having a party!!


13 posted on 09/14/2011 2:52:45 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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Social Security should be phased out.


14 posted on 09/14/2011 2:53:09 PM PDT by CORedneck
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Something in the back of my mind tells me this guy is going to regret saying this.


15 posted on 09/14/2011 2:53:37 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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The law giveth and the law taketh away.


16 posted on 09/14/2011 2:53:55 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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And the same is true for any government pension, federal and local.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 09/14/2011 2:54:10 PM PDT by ml/nj
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The act of a president declaring he is not going to pay SS benefits as defined by the current law, is equivalent to declareing his own death warrant.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 2:55:04 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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Wait...is this guy a racist teabagger terrorist?!?!?!

Only those people would say something like that!!!


23 posted on 09/14/2011 3:00:50 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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Then stop taking money out of paychecks for a non contractual program.
24 posted on 09/14/2011 3:02:19 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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FICA is a tax. Like ALL taxes to the feds, it goes into one revenue pool and is spent through Congressional appropriations and as the President sees fit.

There is no SocSec lock box. SocSec is not a right that can not be found in the Constitution. The govt owes you nothing.


25 posted on 09/14/2011 3:03:13 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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bkmk


30 posted on 09/14/2011 3:08:08 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Government does have a legal obligation to comply with the laws it has passed, SS being among those. Of course it can change laws, but until it does it is obligated to comply.

Contract has a very specific legal meaning. Not sure what this clown thinks he’s accomplished by speaking about SS in terms of contracts. Government does enter some contracts, but it’s not contractually obligated to carry on any of its basic functions. It’s not contractually obligated to maintain an armed forces, and the armed forces have varied greatly in size over the history of the US.


32 posted on 09/14/2011 3:15:44 PM PDT by Will88
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Cooper has been a boil on our states butt for way too many years.

There is talk the state legislature is going to chop up his safe district.

He’s about as “Blue Dog” as Blues Clues and couldn’t find his brain if he shot himself in the head.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 3:20:03 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I reported myself @ AttackWatch.com)
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