Perry tells NH no to border fence

Yahoo ^ | 9/3/11 | Steve Peoples - ap

[NormsRevenge]

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry says he opposes a fence along the U.S. border with Mexico.

Speaking to hundreds of New Hampshire voters at a private reception Saturday afternoon, the Texas governor says a fence would be ineffective and take too long to build.

The comments, which produced one angry shout, expose a rift with some conservative voters over Perry's immigration record. Tea party activists in Texas have been particularly upset by his steady opposition to the fence. He also signed a law giving illegal immigrants in-state tuition for Texas universities.

[Politics4US]

Mark Levin is great, but I thought his interview with Rick Perry was poor last week.

[Will88]

And if Perry or anyone else pretends the border will ever be controlled by troops or personnel of any government unit, keep in mind that as one president can put personnel on the border, a successor can remove them from the border.

[OrangeHoof]

I hope Sara will run. she would NEVER DO THIS CRAP....PERIOD!

Don't be so sure. She's endorsed McCain...and Perry.

[9YearLurker]

What bogus excuses!

I can’t wait for this fraud to be beat back down in the polls.

[cripplecreek]

Gov. Rick Perry's Remarks to the Border Summit

[Steel Wolf]

Forget about fences, let's talk walls. If China can build a wall 5500 miles long, why can't we?

That's probably not the best example. Qin Shi Huang bankrupted China and killed a lot of his own people in the course of building that wall. Once it was done, the barbarians simply rode around it. That effort probably would have been better spent on a bigger, better military.

[Clairity]

Via John McCormack, Rick Perry reiterated his feelings against a total border fence between the U.S. and Mexico in an interview with conservative radio host Mark Levin on Thursday:

“There are places along the border that strategic fencing worked, particularly in the metropolitan areas,” Perry said. “The idea that we’re going to build a wall from El Paso to Brownsville doesn’t make sense ‘cause the fact of the matter is you know, number one, you’d never get it built, and it’d cost billions of dollars ... by the time you go from Tijuana to Brownsville.” Perry said that he does support putting “boots on the ground” and using “aviation assets” (i.e. aerial drones) to secure the border.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62583.html

http://www.rickperry.org/issues/

[bgill]

Yo, Richardo, you’ve been in government for a quarter of a century. Two of those years as Lt. Gov. and 11 as Gov. We had the go ahead and the funds for the fence so please tell us how many miles got built during your reign? Oh, sorry, would it be easier to answer in feet? But it’s not about the fence taking too long or wouldn’t be feasible, it’s about you not enforcing the law and protecting the good people of Texas. You gave us the DREAM Act in Texas allowing illegals in-state tuition while denying that to out-of-state US citizens. You’ve played footsie with La Raza and the liberals. You’ve ignored sanctuary cities right up until you decided to run for president - funny coincident there. Speaking of sanctuary cities, please tell us who all lives in East Austin. You know, that neighborhood that’s full of illegals that is a mere 2000 feet from your office.

[USNBandit]

It works great in California, but what would be better than a fence is two things. First is a eliminating the opportunity for illegal employment. Second is pulling the federal road funding for states that either give illegals driver's licenses, or don't enforce DWLS for illegals.

Another thing that would help with the chronic excuse of not enough funding to deport is seizing assets to pay for deportation. If you arrest an illegal with a car, seize it and use the proceeds to pay for a ticket home. If you serve an arrest warrant on a criminal alien, detain and deport all the illegal family members you find along the way. Raise a gang member, get deported.

[Graybeard58]

I will not vote for that flopper. He is just another rino. I will not vote for the lesser of 2 evils again. Have had enough of that. Maybe it should be CINO—— conservative in name only.

Perry is wrong on this issue and it's a very important one but the only candidate I could never vote for is Romney, who is wrong on every issue and flops to suit the occasion. The latest flop being global warming, unless he's flopped on something else today.

[Jedidah]

Thank you for saying that, lonestar.

I don’t think FReepers who aren’t familiar with the geography of much of the Texas/Mexico border understand the problem. Building a fence along much of it would be colossal stupidity.

I’m a Texan and not a Perry fan, but he’s right on this one. And I’ll vote for him if he’s the best we can do.

[Loyal Sedition]

That depends on the design.

Done right, ladders will not get the invaders very far!

[CharlesWayneCT]

I guess he's not a lying weasel who changes what he says to win elections.... :-)

Anyway, he's not against border security, he says a fence over the entire border isn't a good solution.

Palin seems to think he's fine on border security -- from her speech supporting him for re-election:

Sarah Palin: "If you want lower taxes and limited governemnt if you want a secure border and a strong future if you want conservative principles and common-sense solutions, if you want more of texas and less of washington, send [Rick Perry] back to Austin."

NumbersUsa, which gave Perry a D- on immigration, and gave Palin a D on immigration, said Perry was GOOD on border security, and would be "excellent" if he wrote down his plan.

Fences aren't the only solution, or even the best solution, for the entire border.

[Eagle Eye]

So you mean that a fence that is effective at keeping people out could be useful in keeping people in?

[cripplecreek]

I just plan to run across the Northern border to Canada and tell them that they have to give me everything they give their citizens. That’ll work, right?

Actually kinda funny. Just a week or so back I read a story about an illegal here in America being chased by the border patrol escaped across the border right into the arms of the canadian border patrol.

[Loyal Sedition]

Update for you, they are no longer deported!

[Leaning Right]

But fences do work.

The Berlin Wall worked. The Israeli fence works today.

Sure, a border fence would be expensive. And it would take courage to effectively man them.

But I don't see any other reasonable alternative.

If you just use sensors, you'll get more of the catch-and-release like we have today. That's a complete joke.

If you put the Guard on the border, then what? The Guard can't stand along the border shoulder to shoulder. You'd have to give orders to shoot to kill. That would never happen.

[Steel Wolf]

First is a eliminating the opportunity for illegal employment. Second is pulling the federal road funding for states that either give illegals driver's licenses, or don't enforce DWLS for illegals.

Now you're talking. Eliminate the reason for illegals to be here, punish any employer that uses them, and they'll deport themselves. When you try and deport people, it gets on the news, Americans get sad, and emotion gets in the way of logic.

Keep the discussion based on laws and economics. Punish the employers. De-incentivize illegals from coming in the first place. Incentivize them to go home on their own. It's not as quick as rounding them up and throwing them on southbound buses, but it has the advantage of being totally feasible and politically palatable.

[Clairity]

Gov. Rick Perry’s website:

http://governor.state.tx.us/initiatives/border/

Governing Principle

There can be no homeland security without border security, and there can be no higher priority than protecting our citizens.

While our focus begins with preventing the worst of the violence currently raging in northern Mexico from spilling over into the United States, the violence is only part of the destruction that can result from a porous border. The free flow of drugs, weapons and people resulting from inadequate security can undercut economic development, education and trade. As such, they can hurt Texas families in every way imaginable, from loss of jobs to the loss of family members to addiction, imprisonment or death.

Border security is a federal responsibility but a Texas problem, and Texas has invested hundreds of millions of state dollars in efforts to support and supplement security forces already in place. Still, this is a problem that will only be solved with more federal accountability and involvement.

Highlights

» Starting in 2005 with Operation Linebacker, the state has sought to provide funding, manpower and equipment to local law enforcement agencies operating along the Texas-Mexico border.

» The state’s latest operation, Border Star, builds on the successes of previous operations with unprecedented local, state and federal law enforcement coordination. With the assistance of the 80th and 81st Legislatures, the State of Texas has been able to appropriate more than $110 million each session to fund and amplify these efforts.

» In response to a rising tide of gang violence in Texas communities, the Governor allocated $4 million in criminal justice grants to cities across the state to increase patrols of gang hotspots. In 2009, Gov. Perry worked to secure more than $10 million in state funding for enhanced anti-gang efforts during the 2010-11 biennium.

» In September 2009, Gov. Perry announced the formation of highly-skilled Ranger Recon Teams — which include Texas Rangers, Texas National Guard Counterdrug forces, Highway Patrol and DPS Aviation assets — in order to address threats building in the unincorporated areas along the Texas-Mexico border.

» Since early 2009, Gov. Perry has repeatedly called on Washington to authorize the deployment of 1,000 Title 32 National Guard soldiers to the Texas-Mexico border to support border security operations currently underway. (see letter to President Obama, letter to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and request to Defense Secretary Gates)

» Gov. Perry has also recommended an expeditious deployment of unmanned aerial vehicles to provide real-time surveillance and intelligence to law enforcement on the ground.

[bgill]

What the anti-Perry people don’t tell you is the rest of the story, that Perry wants “boots on the ground”

Hahahahaha! That's funny!