Kevin Costner as Wyatt Earp
Posted on 08/31/2011 3:27:45 PM PDT by neverdem
Wyatt Earp disbursed many a lynch mob with his resolute demeanor standing behind his Colt .45 six shooters or a shotgun. Was his threat overkill? I don’t think so! It worked and usually, not a shot was fired. Check that thought. What about a “flash mob?"
Are they less or more deadly than what Earp encountered? And do you have the reputation of a Marshall Wyatt Earp?
Does the pictured 12 gauge 15-round Kel-Tec Scatter Gun send out the wrong idea? I don’t think so. One might want a scatter gun if confronted by a violent mob. However, one is unlikely to be prepared as such. I am trying to convey the seriousness of the situation. Do you have a problem shooting twenty or more violent hoodlums intent on beating you down to the ground?
A “flash mob” is defined as a group of people who assemble rapidly in a public place, perform an odd and apparently pointless act for a brief period, and then disperse. Flash mobs typically are organized via social media, viral emails and cell phone texts. Until recently, flash mobs were organized for purposes of diversion, street theater, and artistic expression. However, recently, the phenomenon has taken a violent turn.
In recent flash mob attacks both in Europe and in the United States, large, loosely organized wolf packs of teenagers bent on committing violent mayhem have struck in public places, and have seriously injured innocent people caught by surprise in the crowd.
Those injured were in a place they had a right to be, and they were not in places where they would have expected to be targeted for victimization, such as in high crime locations. What can you as a law abiding citizen do to protect yourself and your loved ones from this blight?
Let’s not confuse cause with effect!
It does not matter why violent hooligans choose to get swept up in a viral tidal wave of violent behavior. What matters to those innocently caught up in it is how to get out of it alive with intact limbs.
Semantics
Let’s define our terms. “Flash mob” is a politically correct term for riot. The objective of the rioters is to hurt people. Whether the rioters are drunk, mean, evil, politically motivated, disenfranchised, or whatever, is irrelevant. They are violent criminal actors, or VCA’s. If you are unlucky enough to be caught in their path, they are threatening your life and limb. It is like being a Jew caught in the path of Nazi Storm Troopers in pre-World War II Germany. So, let’s get our meaning straight. There is nothing cute or politically correct about a violent flash mob. So, be aware.
Be A.W.A.R.E.
Being A.W.A.R.E. entails being Alert, being Willing, having a good Attitude, being Ready, and being Even tempered.
Alert
You need to watch your 360 so you can see trouble coming in advance. Often you can see early warning signs. Since action is faster than reaction, if you see trouble coming, you can stack the deck in your favor. That ideally will mean beating feet out of there. However, this may not be possible. Flash mobs descend like a tornado and you can be caught unaware, or be trapped in a situation where you cannot safely retreat. So, are you willing?
Willing If you want to survive, you must be willing to do whatever you have to do to survive a lethal force confrontation if you have no other choice.
That’s why we carry a firearm—for the gravest of extremes. Being confronted by a flash mob of violent hoodlums intent on beating you and your companions down is a grave situation. It can easily cause your death or cause you grievous bodily harm. The reality is not what is depicted in a cartoon, a slap stick comedy, or in a TV western. It is a reality horror show. The best that can happen is you get to survive with grievous injuries. You will be fighting for your life, and there will be no time to hesitate.
If you are cornered and faced with such a disparity of force, due to the number of assailants intent on doing you and your companions physical harm, and if you are in fear for your life, all of the conditions that justify the use of deadly force will have been met.
In order to survive, you need to be willing to use deadly force if you find yourself in this type of grave situation. If you truly and reasonably believe that your life, or the lives of persons under the mantle of your protection, are in imminent danger as a result of your being confronted by persons presenting an immediate and unavoidable threat of death or grave bodily harm, you are justified in employing deadly force. Do you have the necessary mindset and attitude?
Attitude
Be thoughtful, willing to learn, humble, and reasonably friendly, although certainly not overly friendly. Don’t “cop an attitude” before you know the facts. However, once you know the score, your attitude needs to be congruent with the threat level with which you are confronted. Remember that lawful concealed carry is for the “good guys and gals.” It is for those who are pro-social, not anti-social. If you are not antisocial, and you have not instigated the situation, you have the right to use whatever force is necessary to repel unavoidable unlawful force directed at you--such as being attacked by a “flash mob” of VCA’s. Are you ready?
Ready
A gun will do you no good if you are not ready. Being in a state of readiness entails being alert and aware so you can observe what is going on around you. You have to be observant to notice anything out of the ordinary. Once you observe something is out of kilter, then you will orient to it in order to rapidly analyze the situation and decide what to do. Dithering means death. Once you decide, you must act.
If I am facing an oncoming mob and there is no way out, I am prepared to draw my gun and aim it at the nearest and greatest threat. If the sight of the gun doesn't stop the attackers, I am not shooting into the ground. We do not fire warning shots. I am prepared to make my first two warning shots hit center mass of the nearest lethal threat. If a third is required, it might have to be a head shot. This is called “failure to stop”. A “warning shot at the ground is totally unsafe. It could ricochet and hit someone innocent. A “warning shot” in the air will land somewhere it shouldn’t.
Even tempered
You mustn’t be impulsive, angry, or rash. These qualities do not go together with carrying a gun. They do not go along with thinking clearly or rationally. Remember that we carry a gun for self defense, not to intimidate or punish. With that said, if backed into a corner with no avenue of escape from a clearly imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm, lethal force is justified. Survival in a dire violent flash mob situation equates with shooting the most threatening and closest person, and then shooting the next until the mob decides to look for an easier target. “Even tempered” means keeping your cool and not shooting to punish. As soon as the threats turn tail, the shooting must stop. Also, if you are confronted by greater numbers and you even the odds (by downing several threats), you cannot keep shooting! We only shoot to stop the immediate threats.
Avoid and flee if you can. However, if you cannot, and you find yourself backed into a corner, be prepared to attack anyone whom you can identify as the "leader" as fast and as hard as you can. Make him an example!
Summary
A “violent flash mob” is a riot. Violent flash mobs can kill. If you are caught in a violent flash mob, your life is in imminent danger. If you must employ deadly force to repel deadly force, you cannot afford to hesitate. A wise tactician has recently stated: “Use the (attackers’) overconfidence in numbers and you being an easy target as a ‘surprise’. No ‘warnings’...don't let them see it coming. Go from being a wide eyed ‘victim’ to being on the attack. By the time they realize what is happening and even start to react...you should already have several on the ground and on your way to a possible escape! If you happen to be in your vehicle when the attack comes...use reverse as much as you can...the rear of just about any vehicle can take a lot of punishment and still keep going. You don't want holes in your radiator or an airbag in your face.”
This is not taking the law into your own hands or vigilante justice. It is self defense and survival. Survival depends upon emergency first aid. If you are unlucky enough to be caught up in a violent flash mob, “emergency first aid” is doing whatever you must to neutralize the threats to your life and limb until you can escape and the professionals arrive.
Bruce N. Eimer, Ph.D., psychologist and NRA Certified Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor, trains law abiding citizens in the defensive use of firearms. His company, Personal Defense Solutions, LLC, also runs the classes required to obtain the Florida, Virginia, and Utah non-resident multi-state CCW permits. To learn more visit, Personal Defense Solutions.
I’ve seen someone hit with wasp spray. It’s not a pretty sight. You can do damage with snake shot too. When people hear the noise of a gun shot they scatter. I’m talking these flash mobs. A single bullet could miss the person you’re aiming at and hit an innocent bystander caught up in the mob.
That's wasting ammunition you may need defending yourself.
ps - I’m talking about you’re in your car and they bust a window to try to pull you out.
If you happen to be in your vehicle when the attack comes...use reverse as much as you can...the rear of just about any vehicle can take a lot of punishment and still keep going. You don’t want holes in your radiator or an airbag in your face.”
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Hmm, never thought of that, but if they are in front of the car, why not run them over?
At that price it's worth the wait. I just checked their website and they're now at $339.99.
Good luck.
LOL!!
Then walk around with it in plain sight, disguised as a giant soaker.
Then when the mob points to you and lol's, you let 'em have it.
;-)
I think I have to have one of those. Wonder why they didn’t make it semi auto. It sells for around 650.-750.00 depending on where you buy it. I called my local dealer and he gave me a price of 675.00.
So nowhere in CA can you carry a gun? No way in hell would I live in a state like that. No right to defend yourself? I would imagine many do it anyway and take their chances. I’m sure none of the criminals carry guns there, right? /s
Glock 19
I have this one.. Cold Steel Vaquero Grande. Might add that Kobun, great price on that one.
http://www.coldsteel.com/vaqueroseries.html
You have two cans of wasp spray under the drivers seat. Again, I'm talking about a flash mob breaking the car's glass to get at you. You're already prepared to act because you see what's happening. As for the "Judge" - I'm talking about a 10rd. mag in a 1911A1 plus spares. They will scatter.
Bear repellant is a non lethal area denial weapon ie it discharges a large volume in a cone shaped pattern while wasp spray is a single stream also in a mob situation with people literally try to stomp you to death you want to stop the attack in its tracks ,the fastest most efficient way to stop the attack is to shoot the attackers till they stop & snake shot ain’t the tool that will do the job.
Well I look at it that some guy trying to get to you when you’re inside a car will have his head framed by the window - you blast him with that foamy wasp spray (this I learned in a defense class) and they will back off - problem with pepper spray that it could come back on you. As for the gun, again, an errant bullet could miss and hit someone else. In any case, the adrenalin would be heavily flowing. If not snake shot then I’d go with Glaser Safeties.
Incendiary Ammo, they used to carry the 12 gauge but they are out of it now. They do have this:
20rds - 45 ACP Incendiary Ammo
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/cPath/25_34/products_id/48
20rds - 7.62x54R Starburst Incendiary ammo- 4000 degrees when it hits the target, that’s a big ouch.
Would this be considered a warning shot?
12 Gauge Terminator X Ammo. This slug mushrooms upon impact and expands to nearly 2 inches, stopping the slug from totally penetrating the target. This rapid expansion forces the dozen of tiny pellets to spread through the target, opening an area at the impact point equal to a softball! This creates a tremendous shock effect.
Hahaha!
It’s fun joking around, but after having read the thread to #157, I’ve come to realize what a bush-bunny I am. I live on the border of the Purcell Wildlife Conservancy in B.C., prime grizzly habitat. We also have cougar, wolves, black bears and coyotes, any of which could do you real harm. Locals manage the situation by being aware, not by packing iron. Nobody’s been et by a bear, although folks I know have fought them unarmed and survived. There are rifles and shotguns in homes, but one only sees them in public during fall hunting season(great elk and deer hunting here).
I feel safer here unarmed than I would in Philadelphia driving around town in an armored personnel carrier with a 15-round 12-gauge handy-by.
That’s some scary **** happening in your cities!
In the movie “Desperado”, the guitar case WAS the gun. Couldn’t find it, but that’s the idea.
Tear gas shells from a 12 Gauge does the trick, then back it up with lead if they keep coming.
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