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A two-man GOP presidential race? (Perry v Romney)
LA Times ^ | August 28, 2011 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 08/29/2011 10:24:14 AM PDT by AAABEST

Until a few weeks ago, the race for the Republican presidential nomination seemed wide open. There was a presumptive front-runner, Mitt Romney, but he held first place mostly because he was a familiar face; his support among Republican voters appeared broad but not deep.

Many conservatives at the party's core weren't happy with Romney, and a line of would-be champions has auditioned for their support, including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann. But none of them succeeded in knocking Romney off his perch.

Until now. Only two weeks after entering the race, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has abruptly leapt to the top of nationwide polls.

First, the polls. Last week the Gallup Poll showed Perry leading the field with support from 29% of Republican voters, with Romney at 17% and Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 13%. (Other surveys came up with similar results.) Perry's 29% was a stronger showing than Romney had enjoyed in most polls all year.

Though Perry is running strongest among conservatives, who make up a big majority of the GOP electorate, he has attracted a wider range of Republicans as well: high income and low income, college educated and blue collar, Northern and Southern. Some of Perry's support came from former Bachmann voters, but much of it came from voters who once preferred Romney — an ominous finding for the former front-runner, who still has a slight edge among moderates in the party.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: perry; rinofreeamerica; romeny
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To: RC one
Our chances of winning the US Senate in the 2012 elections seems strong. We shouldn't lose sight of this. It is more important than beating Obama IMHO.

I don't think anyone's losing sight of this. In regards to importance, I have two words as to why POTUS is MORE important: Supreme Court.

61 posted on 08/29/2011 11:23:35 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Let your candidate of choice prove him/herself like Sarah has.

Let Sarah Palin declare her candidacy and get in the ring, just like every other candidate has.

62 posted on 08/29/2011 11:25:45 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: treetopsandroofs; All

“....would there be any advantage in a Perry/Romney ticket?”

Only to Mr. Obama. Romney on the ticket, even as VP, is a major gut retch to many real conservatives. It could cost Perry conservative votes.

There are plenty of bonafide conservatives to pick for VP....Romney is not one of them.


63 posted on 08/29/2011 11:27:02 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

[ He cannot go against Sarah head-to-head. ]

You overlook earbuds.. where Obama can be prompted with ideas and verbage.. by a panel of people that CAN debate strongly..


64 posted on 08/29/2011 11:27:10 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: AAABEST

Can we just ignore the LA Slimes and libtard media?

I dont want them picking our candidate (again) for us

Just let them talk amongst themselves while we elect President Palin and Vice President Bachman


65 posted on 08/29/2011 11:28:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: GunRunner
Let Sarah Palin declare her candidacy and get in the ring, just like every other candidate has.

She'll declare when it is in her strategic best interest, not when it is most convenient for your candidate.

Or do you think that's unfair?

66 posted on 08/29/2011 11:28:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Steel Wolf
I'm pretty much in agreement except, I do not see Palin as being viable. It would take a miracle for her to get the nomination.

At this point, Bachmann is more viable than Palin. At least Bachmann has organization and fundraising and she's won the Straw Poll.

I predict Perry will win Iowa.

For all those who want to disagree with me, you have great hope, as I have supported Thompson, Forbes and Gramm in recent elections. My track record is not good.

67 posted on 08/29/2011 11:28:50 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: hosepipe
You overlook earbuds.. where Obama can be prompted with ideas and verbage.. by a panel of people that CAN debate strongly..

He'd screw that up to.

He's not supernatural. Far from it.

68 posted on 08/29/2011 11:29:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: hosepipe
You overlook earbuds.. where Obama can be prompted with ideas and verbage.. by a panel of people that CAN debate strongly..

He has to have a word-for-word script on the TelePrompTer.

Doesn't matter how many hints you give him. He can't put the words together himself.

69 posted on 08/29/2011 11:30:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes, note the famous “breathalyzer” clip on Youtube — without a teleprompter to read from, Obama cannot “hear himself think”. I imagine it would be worse if someone were whispering in his ear.


70 posted on 08/29/2011 11:32:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Jeff Head

PALIN/BACHMAN 2012

UNBEATABLE TICKET ~!

They will get ALL the fmail vote (except the hard-core libtards)

They will get ALL the conservative vote- in droves

The undecideds who went for Obambi the last time will go 100% against him this time

bottom line-
The only vote they will NOT get is the hard core libtards.

How can they lose? I predict a Reagan-like victory of 48 states


71 posted on 08/29/2011 11:33:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Perry - Rubio 2012?


72 posted on 08/29/2011 11:38:17 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: shield
A two-man GOP presidential race? (Perry v Romney)

Yep...but it's Perry vs obama.

73 posted on 08/29/2011 11:38:23 AM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

good point...


74 posted on 08/29/2011 11:38:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What's fair is irrelevant. All I'm saying is that she is currently NOT a candidate, nor has she officially communicated any definitive intentions to be one.

So any grand visions that you or anyone else has are all smoke and mirrors until she's actually an official presidential candidate.

75 posted on 08/29/2011 11:39:44 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
She will declare once the RINO cowboy has been properly vetted.

You remember what happened the last time we bought a pig in a poke, don't you?

76 posted on 08/29/2011 11:41:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It doesn’t seem logical to me that Palin would enter the race, not now that Perry is in. Perry is likely to push the same policy’s that Palin would, and Perry does not have the 2008 baggage.

This is expensively true in the face of democratic criticism that Perry is simply riding an oil boom. I say that because not only is their criticism not founded, Texas cut its budget and did not raise taxes.

It is also true that much of the Success in Texas is indeed due to an Oil Boom and that in itself is part of the problem democrats are forcing upon the rest of the Federation.

You see Texas CAN have an Oil boom precisely because Texas unlike most every other western State(including Alaska) still owns most all of its own lands and therefore is drastically less effected by Federal mandates.

If perry is successful in turning their short sited argument on its head, and freeing up the States. Palin’s own State of Alaska will benefit big time.

So Palin has no driving political reason to get involved other then to support and push Perry in this direction.

Palin also only stands to loses by getting involved cause her support would be much diminished from the 2008 high. It’s not that shes a bad canadit(we all known shes good) its just that the democrats have invested too much in demonizing her too recently.

She would at best end up running distraction(drawing their fire away from our real canadit), which may or may not be a good thing.

I don’t see Palin seriously getting in, she knows theses things.


77 posted on 08/29/2011 11:44:36 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"She will eat him alive in the debates, and he knows it. "

Not only that, she [Palin] will give actual answers and not the political-speak that we keep getting from all the others (yes including Perry and -lately- Bachman) I have actually written to Bachman and told her to PLEASE stop with her growing use of platitudes in her speeches...

*ALL* candidates promise they will "fight for you" and "stand up for the American people" (including Obama)

78 posted on 08/29/2011 11:45:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
She'll declare when it is in her strategic best interest,

The fact of the matter is that 15 months (until the general) and five months (until the primaries) is not enough time for her to fix her negatives. She has waited too long and the train has left the station.

Sorry 'bout dat but, BOOK IT!

79 posted on 08/29/2011 11:46:58 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Abraham Lincoln may have only served one term in the House of Representatives, but he had signed the Declaration of Independence (as Martin Luther King, Jr.'s daughter pointed out).

A woman from Concerned Women for America was on C-SPAN this morning. She said they don't endorse anyone for President but were happy with a lot of the candidates running this year on the Republican side. She seemed to think that Sarah Palin would enter the race.

80 posted on 08/29/2011 11:47:08 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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