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A two-man GOP presidential race? (Perry v Romney)
LA Times ^ | August 28, 2011 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 08/29/2011 10:24:14 AM PDT by AAABEST

Until a few weeks ago, the race for the Republican presidential nomination seemed wide open. There was a presumptive front-runner, Mitt Romney, but he held first place mostly because he was a familiar face; his support among Republican voters appeared broad but not deep.

Many conservatives at the party's core weren't happy with Romney, and a line of would-be champions has auditioned for their support, including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann. But none of them succeeded in knocking Romney off his perch.

Until now. Only two weeks after entering the race, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has abruptly leapt to the top of nationwide polls.

First, the polls. Last week the Gallup Poll showed Perry leading the field with support from 29% of Republican voters, with Romney at 17% and Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 13%. (Other surveys came up with similar results.) Perry's 29% was a stronger showing than Romney had enjoyed in most polls all year.

Though Perry is running strongest among conservatives, who make up a big majority of the GOP electorate, he has attracted a wider range of Republicans as well: high income and low income, college educated and blue collar, Northern and Southern. Some of Perry's support came from former Bachmann voters, but much of it came from voters who once preferred Romney — an ominous finding for the former front-runner, who still has a slight edge among moderates in the party.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: perry; rinofreeamerica; romeny
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To: AAABEST
Let's see what Sep 3 brings. If as I suspect it brings in Palin, then it will be a two-man, one woman race. And I believe Palin can take it.

GO SARAH GO!

21 posted on 08/29/2011 10:48:05 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: treetopsandroofs

Would a Perry/Romney or Romney/Perry ticket work? I have no way to know but if Perry were to choose a RINOesque balance to the ticket, I hope it doesn’t work out like when eight years of Reaganism were largely watered down by Bush 41.

Just as Reagan chose Bush to unify the party and make sure they were on the same page in beating Carter, i would not have a cow if a Perry/Palin/Bachmann chose somebody like Romney as a Veep to get the “establishment” RINOs on board. Beating Obama has to be the primary goal.


22 posted on 08/29/2011 10:50:08 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: T. P. Pole
Perry is tea party?

Video: Governor Perry: Austin Tea Party (April 2009)

23 posted on 08/29/2011 10:50:49 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I don’t think we have enough data to know that Perry can stick above Romney in the polls.

We can infer that conclusion from available data. Both have top tier fundraising abilities, so their abilities to remain in the race is sound.

Perry is in his fourth term as governor of a state that's red, but has significant blue factions. He's 61 and never lost an election, ever. His ability to win over red states and purple states is pretty much a foregone conclusion. His jobs messages is simple, and will resonate in 2012.

Romney was governor of a very, very blue state, but he's not going to carry any blue states in the general. It's not really clear he has much of an appeal to purple states, and there's no measurable fervor for him among the red base. He has business experience, which is important, but a lot of it is as a corporate raider.

Perry and Romney both have their faults, but comparatively, RomneyCare is an order of magnitude worse than the TTC. There's really no comparison between the two on abortion, guns, global warming hysteria or a lot of other basic issues. There's just no meat to a Romney candidacy, other than his 'business' appeal, and that is negated by the business killing ObamneyCare record.

If there is an advantage that Romney has over Perry, I have a hard time discerning what that might be.

24 posted on 08/29/2011 10:51:11 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: AAABEST

Romney is like Al Gore without the charisma.


25 posted on 08/29/2011 10:51:36 AM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: Renata Maree
What significant poll shows Hermain Cain as a likely choice?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

26 posted on 08/29/2011 10:53:39 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: AAABEST

When Perry threw his hat in, I figureed that was the end of Romney. He beats Romney at every “Romney Strength”. And I don’t believe anyone talks about “PerryCare”.


27 posted on 08/29/2011 10:53:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Steel Wolf

You said it well, and it sums up how I feel about this. Also, I remember an article about how Perry is running his election. IIRC, he’s got a grip on the social networking stuff that sort of trumps the costly stuff. I remember something about shunning yard signs, TV ads, etc.

Can you imagine a presidential election where the winner spent very little on advertizing? The media would come unglued. It would be like the impact on retailers of cancelling the Christmas Buying season.


28 posted on 08/29/2011 10:53:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I think it is going to be Perry vs. Palin - and Romney and Bachmann fighting for the #3 position. Wish Cain would poll a little higher, but he I'm afraid is going in the way of Fred Thompson.
29 posted on 08/29/2011 10:55:03 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (Go Mama Grizzly! Palin 2012)
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To: samtheman
The thing that sticks in my mind from Romney’s run in 2008 ......






30 posted on 08/29/2011 10:55:08 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I just got my Palin 2012 t-shirt in the mail today. Sarah Palin IS the tea party candidate without a doubt. I don’t have time for “second best”.


31 posted on 08/29/2011 10:55:40 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: treetopsandroofs
BUT WE MUST KEEP HUSSEIN FROM A SECOND TERM.

Sarah is the candidate he fears most.

She can actually think and talk at the same time.

Ubama can only read a TelePrompTer.

She will eat him alive in the debates, and he knows it.

Don't be surprised if there are no debates.

He cannot go against Sarah head-to-head.

32 posted on 08/29/2011 10:55:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
helped them argue for another candidate not yet in the race

The one who shall not be named. What is this, Fear Factor?
33 posted on 08/29/2011 10:56:32 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: AAABEST

Take a hike Romney.

You never, ever stood for anything nor any ideal of America.

You continue to treat your campaign like a business objective and are just plain uninspiring.

Sadly, you have potential but your record is also lacking.


34 posted on 08/29/2011 10:57:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Servant of the Cross

All of those are oldies-but-goodies. I particularly love the “30 seconds to rebut yourself”.


35 posted on 08/29/2011 10:57:02 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Steel Wolf
If the situation in Feb. is similar to now, it looks like Iowa is an especially important state in this race. Romney is pretty much forfeiting Iowa so it should come down to Bachmann vs Perry. If Bachmann can hold on, she will be able to continue on but if Perry wins, she is on life support.

IF Romney takes NH, Bachmann has lost two states. If it's a contest between Romney and Perry for SC, Perry wins. It could be a horse race in FL, but then, maybe not.

The scenario looks good for Perry.

36 posted on 08/29/2011 10:59:11 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: samtheman
That and the fact that he said that his four non-military sons chose “another way to serve their country”.

I was appalled when Romney compared his sons campaigning for him with serving the country. "Their serving by trying to help their dad get elected". He is an idiot.

(The question was an unfair one. What does Romney have to do with whether his five grown sons join the military? Still, his answer was ridiculous).

37 posted on 08/29/2011 10:59:13 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: T. P. Pole

I thought he was preferred by the TP more so than Romney. Not correct?


38 posted on 08/29/2011 10:59:27 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

She needs to declare her candidacy first, and we’re not even sure if that’s going to happen.


39 posted on 08/29/2011 10:59:35 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: cuban leaf
And I don’t believe anyone talks about “PerryCare”.

Welcome to FR. It IS obvious that you have not been here long.

40 posted on 08/29/2011 10:59:52 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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