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Only Two Locations Had 85 MPH Gusts (Irene Hype Then and Now is BULLCRAP!)
Real-Science.com ^ | 8/28/2011 | S Goddard

Posted on 08/28/2011 3:48:41 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

NOAA said that maximum average wind speeds at landfall were 85 MPH, hurricane winds stretching outwards for 90 miles. In fact, only two locations even had gusts over 85 MPH.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barackobama; hussein; irene; liars; lie; lying; obama
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To: rlmorel

This is awesome!

Next time please post a spew alert! My wife and I saw this and both LOAO!!


61 posted on 08/28/2011 5:42:35 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Graybeard58

Thanks...glad you liked it, Graybeard58...:)

I do want to reiterate that it was not directed towards people who have experienced losses, both physically and property-wise. I know there are places up in Vermont experiencing real problems right now with the rain.

It was directed towards the people who were (and still are) hyping this beyond reality.


62 posted on 08/28/2011 5:42:48 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: penelopesire

If you go back to my original post, I asked that people cut it back and say a prayer for the people that have been greatly affected. Try some decaf!


63 posted on 08/28/2011 5:43:05 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: penelopesire

Here’s my question.

Homeowners should be insured from windstorm (hurricane or tornado), fires, floods, etc....right? Granted, politicians have driven many private insurers out of business due to regulation and have forced property owners into state pools which makes no sense whatsoever, but still...

Business owners, ditto.

Municipalities, counties and states should be insured or self-insured.

Clean up is usually done by the individuals affected, hired by them or their insurer, or these people are on the payroll anyway (city crews, for example).

WHY THE HELL ARE WE RELYING ON THE FEDS FOR “DISASTER RELIEF” ANYWAY????????


64 posted on 08/28/2011 5:43:07 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Errant
Mississippi had a 27' storm surge. N.O. had a 22' storm surge. What do you think breached the levees? That's right, Bush had them blown up...

Yes, GWB's period of absence from the TX Air National Guard all makes sense now. He was attending underwater demolition cross-training with Navy SEALs.

BTW, most of New Orleans' flooding was caused by levees being over-topped, not breached. Katrina's storm surge even passed over the Mississippi River levees south of the city. Those levees are far more impressive than the perimeter flood-control levees.

65 posted on 08/28/2011 5:43:34 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: SSS Two

Hurricane force winds? Who had that today?


66 posted on 08/28/2011 5:44:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Errant

The storm surge didn’t breach the levees, the levees were breached by corruption.


67 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Artcore
LOL...after the fact:

SPEW ALERT!


68 posted on 08/28/2011 5:46:24 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: GatorGirl

I certainly don’t think we should be helping those with insurance or businesses that lose money from being closed,etc. I don’t even agree with helping people that repeatedly build homes along coastal waters. The problem is our government is the largest insurer and therein lays the problem. We are paying for it all and Obama is playing political games with OUR MONEY!

I can see the need to rebuild certain areas that provide economic benefit to states...but who pays for it all? That is the question. And who decides who gets what? That is the problem.


69 posted on 08/28/2011 5:49:27 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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Gilboa dam: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/350M-update-nears-of-Gilboa-Dam-New-York-City-1428191.php

There are news stories of Cuomo talking about how THIS DAM needs to be inspected for 'possible' damage because of a small New York earthquake. Earliest story I see is from 8/27. Cuomo said that while the 2.9 magnitude earthquake Saturday was small." http://www.whec.com/news/stories/s2259407.shtml?cat=565

70 posted on 08/28/2011 5:51:41 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t think it is disappointment it wasn’t worse, I don’t think that is it at all...I think it is the around the clock coverage that has been hyping this weather event to a breathless level that bothers people, and I agree.

It is unseemly, this strange, contrived crisis atmosphere. I think it is harmful in the long run.

I think we can hold both the concept of thinking this thing is overhyped and simultaneously praying for those who are being affected by this.


71 posted on 08/28/2011 5:52:27 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: ApplegateRanch
Actually, it octuples rather than only quadruples.

You're right when speaking of power/energy (e.g. wind turbine hp). I see that I did mention energy in my statement below.

When wind speed doubles the force or energy of the wind quadruples.

However, the force of the wind (e.g. trees, signs knocked down, lbs of force) increases on the square as I mentioned.

My bad on the other and good catch - thanks for correcting!

WIND TUNNEL TESTING - For those who want to read more.

72 posted on 08/28/2011 5:54:30 PM PDT by Errant
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To: penelopesire

My wife and I live in an area that is neither likely to be flooded nor experience an earthquake. But my wife (bless her) insisted we get both on our insurance, and have had it for 24 years.

I do have a problem with building in areas that are going to be washed away in a storm, and expecting Uncle Sam to pick up the tab AND allow rebuilding.

I guess I can see where there is a once-per-lifetime event where the government helps out there and after that you are on your own regardless of who owns the property after that, but that is even a stretch.


73 posted on 08/28/2011 5:57:32 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: cumbo78

I said it was a rant. I have just gotten tired of reading the same kind of posts all day and last night. Just had enough...especially since I know that many of us who do have questions have been pillored by a few relentless posters on several threads even though some of us were the very first ones calling for folks to say a prayer when the whole thing started. Sorry that my rant had to go off on you...it wasn’t personal.

Now back to regular programming...lol.


74 posted on 08/28/2011 6:00:41 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: freeandfreezing

And does anyone think that if people didn’t buy back to school stuff week that they will never buy it anytime this year?

Gee, uh, how about NEXT weekend?


75 posted on 08/28/2011 6:02:26 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: rlmorel

Oddly, that’s exactly how the chairs in my yard looked after the storm passed by New Hampshire today.


76 posted on 08/28/2011 6:03:11 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Errant
However, the force of the wind (e.g. trees, signs knocked down, lbs of force) increases on the square as I mentioned.

My bad on the other and good catch - thanks for correcting!

Right; one doubles; one squares; and the other cubes.

I read ‘energy’, and automatically thought, ‘oops; cubes’.

Force squares with speed; energy cubes with speed; hype squares with energy...con mucho gusto! LOL

77 posted on 08/28/2011 6:04:35 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: RedCell

I have empathy for the people who have problems...but look, after the hype that preceded this storm, it IS bullcrap.

Ever been through a REAL hurricane, though? Obviously not, because right now you’ve got internet.

Try livin’ for 9 days without electricity, no ice, limited communications (we did have phone sporadically), and do it in a sub tropical climate. We did that a few years back when a hurricane blew through.

Sounds to me like ya’ll are dealing with what a bad blizzard might do...and while I’ve been through those, too, I believe you’ll get back on your feet.

So don’t think I’ve not faced it either. I have. And I empathize. But this wasn’t a major disaster. Not by a long shot.


78 posted on 08/28/2011 6:06:30 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Poser

Where do you think the picture came from?

:)


79 posted on 08/28/2011 6:06:30 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: SSS Two
Realize that Irene, up to her passage off the NJ Shore, had barometric readings of a Cat 3 storm.

This was a very odd storm that will send tropical forecasters back into their think tanks all winter long to try and figure out how they got it wrong. Joe Bastardi has made some very good calls in his career and he overstated this one. It happens. I'm glad it was a fizzle. But you don't know it's going to be such until it actually fizzles.

80 posted on 08/28/2011 6:06:43 PM PDT by dirtboy
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