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In hurricane Irene bull's eye, coastal NC braces (CCW permits invalid) [or not, see post 46]
Yahoo ^ | 8/26/11 | Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 08/27/2011 12:12:17 AM PDT by Libloather

In hurricane Irene bull's eye, coastal North Carolina braces
By Patrik Jonsson | Christian Science Monitor – 15 hrs ago

**SNIP**

North Carolina declared a state of emergency Thursday, opening access to federal assets to help government agencies respond to the disaster.

To help with a potentially disastrous aftermath, the government has stationed mountains of supplies, including water and generators, at Fort Bragg, one of the country's largest military installations. In North Carolina, an emergency declaration also means concealed weapons carry permits are invalid for the duration – another grim reminder of the potential of a storm to cause civil unrest.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; carolina; hurricane; irene; nc; weapon
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To: A Navy Vet

Suspending CCW is not the problem. It is knowing the government will find an excuse to not end the suspension that is the problem.


41 posted on 08/27/2011 3:03:40 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin 2012 - Nothing but Net)
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To: berdie

The Weather Channel has been libs/environmental whack jobs from the get go.


42 posted on 08/27/2011 3:14:31 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: Winstons Julia

Comparing New Orleans to Mississippi is an unfair comparison. Louisiana took care of its own. New Orleans is a major city. The suburbs and parishes surrounding New Orleans took care of their own. Parts of New Orleans took care of their own. New Orleans is just a different animal so the MSM could exploit a small number of incidences in a big way. The surrounding areas had their own incidences that they dealt with. The per capita looting (not that I’ve seen any numbers) felt about the same in the rural suburbs as in the city. It’s just not news when Joe gets his lawn mower stolen from his garage as opposed to a Wally World being looted.


43 posted on 08/27/2011 3:16:38 AM PDT by loucon
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Suspending CCW is not the problem.

Bullshit!

Suspending CCW at any time is the problem!

44 posted on 08/27/2011 3:19:08 AM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: Libloather

Mein got! Who here has any firearms/weapons? We lost them all in tragic boating accidents during the last storm, remember? Comeon guys.


45 posted on 08/27/2011 3:25:25 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: Libloather
(CCW permits invalid for duration)

Please stop spreading this disinformation.

The Governor's office issued this statement when it declared the initial state of emergency for the eastern NC counties:

This order is adopted pursuant to my powers under Article 1 of Chapter 166A of the General Statutes and under Article 36A of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes. It does not trigger the limitations on weapons in G.S. § 14-288.7 or impose any limitation on the consumption, transportation, sale or purchase of alcoholic beverages.

In NC, we deal with this all the time when a state of emergency is declared. Some idiot jurisdictions like King continue to be a problem, but the 2nd Amendment groups already have active suits there. I think we will eventually change our law (G.S. § 14-288.7) but until then, the Governor can just state that the declaration does not trigger that particular statute.

46 posted on 08/27/2011 3:29:44 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Libloather
Yep - really nuts. After Katrina, New Orleans police started confiscating weapons - that left them in the hands of of the bad guys (remember stories of folks shooting at rescue helicopters...).

In Mississippi, the y left our guns alone. I had my .357 on my hip (without a CCW, so technically illegal) and was putting a sign at the entrance to our street that said: Armed Community - looters WILL BE SHOT. A Florida Trooper cruised by, paused to look me over and read the sign, then touched the brim of his hat and drove off.

Knowing that difference in gun philosophy, one might ask how much looting they saw in Mississippi - I saw none on the news. Makes a case for INSISTING those with weapons carry them, CCW or not, during this type emergency - it keeps the rabble rousers in line.

47 posted on 08/27/2011 3:30:20 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: berdie

“...most people pull together in times like these.”

Yes, unlike animals who often turn against each other, ‘human beings’ will help each other during a crisis.

Perfect example would be the aftermath of Katrina down in New Orleans, i.e. looting, robbery, rapes etc.


48 posted on 08/27/2011 3:38:15 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Daffynition
Mein got! Who here has any firearms/weapons? We lost them all in tragic boating accidents during the last storm, remember? Comeon guys.

I DO! I have plenty of weapons, and ammo with which to feed them, too.

I am of the opinion that when the day comes that we have to hide our weapons from the government... that is the day we had better start USING them.

49 posted on 08/27/2011 3:40:47 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: Daffynition
My dog ate my homework arsenal.
50 posted on 08/27/2011 3:44:47 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Several changes were made in the CCW laws by the legislature.
Not familiar with all the particulars but I think this was one of the items.
IIRC the new revisions take effect Dec.1.


51 posted on 08/27/2011 3:46:38 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: PalmettoMason

Many have commented, of late, that when the SHTF, all of us FReepers are going to rounded up as part of HS’s crackdown of terrorists/anarchists.


52 posted on 08/27/2011 3:47:15 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Suspending CCW is not the problem.

I respectfully disagree.

The idea that they can "suspend" a right that is clearly stated in the U.S. Constitution IS the problem. They are conditioning us to believe that our rights are granted at the whim of government officials.

I'd love to see the wailing and gnashing of teeth if they suspended a "right" that is not clearly stated in the Constitution... like the "right to an abortion". LOL

53 posted on 08/27/2011 3:47:28 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: mamelukesabre

I agree completely. Shades of New Orleans. Past time for the citizens of NC to file a lawsuit.


54 posted on 08/27/2011 3:52:52 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Daffynition
Many have commented, of late, that when the SHTF, all of us FReepers are going to rounded up as part of HS’s crackdown of terrorists/anarchists.

You just made my point.

55 posted on 08/27/2011 3:53:12 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: berdie

“most people pull together in times like these.” Yeah, the africans in New Orleans sure pulled together.


56 posted on 08/27/2011 3:54:19 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
Hey Scotsman, do you know if we have any such provision in our CCW law here?

If so, we need to get working on taking care of it now, before Gov. Haley is gone.

57 posted on 08/27/2011 3:55:46 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: All
North Carolina § 14-288.7 does a lot more (when invoked) than just suspend CCW. It suspends ALL POSSESSION OF FIREARMS outside of your own property. No CCW or Open Carry allowed. No possession off your own property, period.

(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to transport or possess off his own premises any dangerous weapon or substance in any area:

(1) In which a declared state of emergency exists; or

(2) Within the immediate vicinity of which a riot is occurring.

(b) This section does not apply to persons exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269 with respect to any activities lawfully engaged in while carrying out their duties.

(c) Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. (1969, c. 869, s. 1; 1993, c. 539, s. 192; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)


58 posted on 08/27/2011 3:56:36 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

You need to look at the people who live in those areas. There is no comparison.


59 posted on 08/27/2011 3:57:50 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: PalmettoMason

Not that I’m aware of, but I will definitely look into it.


60 posted on 08/27/2011 4:03:24 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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