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Polygamy Meets Big Brother
Daily Beast via Yahoo ^ | August 3, 2011 | Carol McKinley

Posted on 08/04/2011 8:41:36 AM PDT by MizSterious

Polygamy Meets Big Brother

The West Texas jury deciding the fate of polygamy cult leader Warren Jeffs listened through headphones to 21 minutes of heavy breathing yesterday. Some in the room wept. Others held their hands over their mouths. The X-rated recording, a cornerstone of the state’s child-sex-assault case, allegedly chronicled Jeffs’ encounter with a 12-year-old girl, an episode that ended with the self-proclaimed prophet declaring, “In Jesus Christ, amen.”

The jurors heard an almost inaudible voice. “Amen,” echoed the child.

It got worse. According to prosecutors, Jeffs and his new “celestial wife” were not alone. A dozen of his most trusted men were witnesses to the “sealing.” It was a family affair: At least one of Jeffs’ other wives, his purported favorite, Naomi, was also in the room. “What are you feeling?” Jeffs asked the girl. And in a moment that froze everyone in the courtroom, she answered meekly, “Very well, thank you.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: beck; flds; glennbeck; homosexualagenda; huntsman; inman; jeffs; jonhuntsman; lds; mittromney; mormon; mormonism; mormons; pedophiles; polyamory; polygamy; polygyny; rape; romney; warrenjeffs
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To: metmom
gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
#Warrenjeffs jury still deliberating, headed back into court to find out more about the evidence they have asked about
10 minutes ago

BTW: AAG Eric Nichols and AG Greg Abbott have made it abundantly clear that this case is NOT about religion. It is about sexual assault and aggravated sexual assault of a child.

61 posted on 08/04/2011 12:23:32 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Pebcak

What’s wrong with them??????


62 posted on 08/04/2011 12:24:29 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: metmom

Forgiving others is very interesting - whenever we are able to forgive those who have harmed us personally, it’s like a huge iron ball and chain lifted from our hearts. It’s liberating ourselves from anger, pain, wanting others to hurt in return (revenge), the past...

It ain’t easy but it is the right thing, and it has to be real, and with God all things are possible!


63 posted on 08/04/2011 12:26:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: metmom
The bigamy charges come in October.

What’s wrong with them??????

Who ever knows with a jury? Maybe they've heard so much since AAG Nichols presented the dates and the DNA they wanted to review it. Maybe they're in shock? But, yeah. That's pretty much the question everyone is asking on twitter. You can follow agong here:

http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23warrenjeffs

There are some pretty funny tweets.

64 posted on 08/04/2011 12:35:58 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: little jeremiah

“... any adult who knew about or helped... deserves prison time”.

I agree. I understand they charged the “leader” but that doesn’t make the crimes of the other adults less (in my opinion). Personally, I think they should have charged every adult who participated and YES... that includes the so called “Moms” who surrendered their daughters.


65 posted on 08/04/2011 1:00:23 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: MizSterious

Hmmm... don’t know where you would get that idea.

I do have experience with people marrying very young. My Uncle was 16 and married his 14 year old girlfriend the day she turned 15. I myself married very young as well (been married 14 years to her now).

Serious question. Say you’re in TX & a 20 year old guy marries a 14 year old girl (under parental consent), then divorces her a few months later. A week after the divorce they sleep together.

Could he or should he be charged with, as some would put it, “Child Rape” or what legally called statutory rape?


66 posted on 08/04/2011 1:02:20 PM PDT by RC51
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To: little jeremiah

25 year minimum.


67 posted on 08/04/2011 1:12:55 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: metmom
Via Twitter:

gosanangelo GoSanAngelo.com
BREAKING: #Warrenjeffs jury has asked to hear one of audiotapes again, they are being moved to a different courtroom to listen to it
3 minutes ago

68 posted on 08/04/2011 1:19:50 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: RC51; MizSterious; wagglebee; little jeremiah; pandoraou812
I do have experience with people marrying very young. My Uncle was 16 and married his 14 year old girlfriend the day she turned 15. I myself married very young as well (been married 14 years to her now).

Then he married his 15 year old girlfriend.

Serious question my foot.

Your support of child rape is disgusting. It's no different than the made up scenarios that the pro-abortion movement uses to justify blanket legalizing abortion for everyone.

Did you check out the age of consent in TX as suggested?

IBTZ

69 posted on 08/04/2011 1:28:45 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: MizSterious

The jury has asked to hear the tape and see the transcript again. The judge told them initially they could only see the transcript once.

I hope this doesn’t end up with a hung jury. But I can see at least one person saying “I can’t be sure that’s a 12 year old girl on the tape and I can’t be sure they’re actually having sex.”

Or, what if there’s a mormon or two on the jury who thinks this is persecution?


70 posted on 08/04/2011 1:29:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: MizSterious
Unless Warren Jeffs repents: he, Satan, Joe Smith and Brig Young will be "sealing" each other in the pits of hell for the rest of eternity.

Wives of Brigham Young:
1. Miriam Works ?18
2. Mary Ann Angell 30
3. Lucy Ann Decker 20
4. Harriet Elizabeth Cook Campbell 18
5. Augusta Adams ?41
6. Clarissa Decker 15
7. Clarissa Ross 30
8. Emily Dow Partridge 20
9. Susan Snively 29
10. Olive Grey Frost 28
11. Emmeline Free ?19
12. Margaret Pierce ?22
13. Maria Lawrence
14. Ellen Rockwood ?16
15. Martha Bowker 23
16. Naamah Kendel Jenkins Carter 24
17. Zina Diantha Huntington 25
18. Louisa Beaman ?31
19. Margaret Maria Alley 20
20. Lucy Bigelow 16
21. Mary Jane Bigelow 19
22. Eliza R. Snow 45
23. Eliza Burgess ?23
24. Harriet Barney ?25
25. Harriet Amelia Folsom 24
26. Mary Van Cott 22
27. Ann Eliza Webb 23

71 posted on 08/04/2011 1:39:44 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: little jeremiah
Any adult who knew about or helped in any way this or other rapes deserves prison time.

Major understatement!

72 posted on 08/04/2011 1:41:39 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Terry Mross
I don't know where you are getting your information.

There is no transcript. The Court reporter hasn't had time to transcribe anything yet. The Judge offered to have the Court reporter read them anything of Rebecca Musser’s testimony they would like to hear. SOP.

They also want to re-listen to all 3 tapes. Understandable to me. If they were listening with head phones and someone was jumping up and down in front of them - they may have been distracted.

Re: Becky Musser’s testimony. She gave many definitions that were specific to the sect Mr. Jeffs belongs to. Perhaps this was new information to them and they want to compare the definitions she gave with the things they're hearing on the tape.

I'd call that a serious and thoughtful jury.

73 posted on 08/04/2011 1:43:57 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Pebcak

Where I got my information was the T.V. show In Session. The tape of him raping the little girl while other people were present also had a transcript for the jury to follow along with. That’s the only tape that had a transcript and that’s the one the jury wants to listen to again. Again, according to In Session.

There is one piece of evidence that should convict him and that is DNA proving he fathered a child with a 14 year old. They don’t need a tape.


74 posted on 08/04/2011 1:53:03 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Pebcak; Terry Mross

There is a transcript of at least ONE of the audio tapes. There was testimony about how long it took to get it transcribed (Over 5 hours).

The jury wasnts to hear all 3 audio tapes plus review part of the Musser testimony (I’m thinking it is the ‘get close’ part).


75 posted on 08/04/2011 2:00:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

I hope this guy gets his due. If he walks nobody will ever have the courage to break away from this creep.


76 posted on 08/04/2011 2:05:17 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross
From someone who's there: They're setting up the Courtroom so they can re-listen to the tape and the Court reporter is going to read them select portions of Rebecca Musser’s testimony.

But first they're going to lunch.

77 posted on 08/04/2011 2:08:51 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Pebcak

How they can even eat is beyond me.


78 posted on 08/04/2011 2:12:59 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: metmom

Me too.


79 posted on 08/04/2011 2:22:48 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Pebcak

HLN is reporting there is a verdict. This is good. I think.


80 posted on 08/04/2011 2:40:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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