Posted on 08/03/2011 6:04:11 AM PDT by marktwain
Washington, DC --(Ammoland.com)- Colin Goddard, the misguided Virginia Tech shooting victim who has turned to the Brady Center to Promote Gun Violence for solace, said in a recent post about the Oslo Shooting: Unfortunately, I was soon infuriated by the gun fanatics in America who immediately used this massacre to assert that strong gun laws, like Norways, dont work.
Well, if you look at the case of Anders Behring Breivik, Norways ludicrous gun control laws dont and didnt work.
So, the first question is: Who, Mr. Goddard, is actually the fanatic in this case? Is it common sense self defense advocates, or emotionally convoluted knee-jerk hysterics?
It is a statistical fact that mass shooters nearly always capitulate to armed resistance.
* It happened in 2007 with the Arvada Colorado Shooting, when Jeanne Assam confronted and shot a heavily armed attacker. The attacker then shot and killed himself. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Assam
* It happened in 2002 at the Appalachian Law School Shooting, when two armed civilians stopped a killer on campus. www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/01/13/lang.htm
Further, when Norwegian Anders Breivik was eventually confronted with deadly force by a SWAT team, he immediately surrendered. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that he would have done any less for a determined armed civilian.
Let me explain why the Brady Centers poster boy, Mr. Goddard, embraces methods that are fanatical: He advocates for victim disarmament, in the face of irrefutable evidence that said disarmament actually allows for greater harm to innocent people. www.freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-mass-killers-meet-armed-resistance.html
What he advocates is a decreasing of arms in the civilian population. Thats exactly what gives free reign to evil doers who use guns unlawfully. Is that not the advocacy of a fanatic?
I have met Mr. Goddard at a screening of his Living For 32″ movie at the University of Arizona in Tucson. A number of us from The Arizona Citizens Defense League attended his event.
Mr. Goddard was in the final room that The Virginia Tech Shooter attacked, and was present when Seung-Hui Cho ended the shooting spree by suicide.
Mr. Goddard described to us all in Tucson how his classmates at Virginia Tech heard the noise of the gun shots, and at first thought it was construction noise. They then heard the noise getting louder, and the teacher opened the door to look, suddenly slamming it shut and telling everyone to get on the floor and dial 911, that there was a man with a gun approaching. Mr. Goddard did so, opened his back pack, retrieved his cell phone, and got through to 911 before he was shot four times by Cho.
Just before the screening of his movie in Tucson, I asked Mr. Goddard: If there had been a police officer, off duty with his gun sitting next to you, do you think he could have drawn and engaged the shooter with that amount of warning? (Understand also that Mr. Goddard was an ROTC Cadet, familiar with arms and tactics, and experienced on the M-16 rifle.)
Mr. Goddards response to me was, I have war gamed that over and over in my mind, and I just dont know.
It simply has to be said: Mr. Goddard, this is a truly pitiful response.
You seem to be under a hypnotic trance. Do you now actually embrace the lie that holds you hostage?
Think about Mr. Goddards reply. He does not know if a police officer could neutralize a deadly threat with about 50 seconds of warning? This from cover, with the assailant coming through a known and restricted entry point?
Or does Mr. Goddard KNOW, deep in his heart, that something actually might have been done to stop Cho? Instead of facing this harsh truth, has he slipped into delusional fanaticism? Is he now so hysterically committed to victim disarmament that he cannot admit that a gun in the hand of a righteous man or woman could have saved innocent lives?
Goddard asserts that the gun lobby says that the gun laws in Norway did not work?
Well, we at JPFO, a twenty-one-year-old civil rights advocate, and proud of it, point out that the gun laws in Norway worked all too well in lunatic Anders Breiviks favor. These deluded laws disarmed the victims, and completely enabled the perpetrator. That is what ALL gun control laws do.
Mr. Goddard asserts that the gun lobby is, in essence, dancing in the blood of the victims. The truth is thats exactly what he, and his cohorts and handlers at the Brady Center To Promote Gun Violence, are doing. Just like their victim vulture response to the Giffords shooting in Arizona, its to their advantage to do so.
The strategy is called transference, a defense mechanism in which the user ascribes to his opponent the exact strategy which he, himself, is using.
Unknowing or unthinking readers, taking those statements blatant lies -- at face value, will believe them, without questioning the framing bias of the person making the statement. Anders Behring Breivik
Crazy is as crazy does: Breivik posing in a compression garment in a photo released six hours before the attacks. The insignia on his left shoulder reads: "Marxist Hunter - Norway - Multiculti traitor hunting permit".
The fact is that Norwegian gun laws completely enabled Breiviks agenda. Not one armed adult, moderator, or chaperone, was present with a gun to stop the unlawful violence with deadly force. Had the Norwegian socialist utopians not had their way, and there had been just a single armed protector on that island, that murdering monster might have been dead after getting off only one shot.
As it was, Breivik had NINETY MINUTES to work his blood lust. Now the Norwegian authorities have the gall to actually praise the bumbling efforts of the police? This is utterly upside-down thinking that verges on insanity!
Armed self defense works.
* It worked in 2008 at Mercaz HaRav Yeshiva, where a part time student and off duty soldier stopped a mass killing with a handgun. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercaz_HaRav_massacre.
* It worked in 1997 in Pearl, Mississippi when Assistant Principal Joel Myrick used a gun at a school to stop a killer. www.davekopel.com/2a/othwr/principal&gun.htm
We would also like to point out that the clamor for background checks has been heard far and wide. Well, Norways Anders Breivik had a very thorough one.
* So did Jared Loughner, the Tucson madman who shot Congresswoman Giffords and seventeen other people January 8th of this year.
* So did Seung-Hui Cho, the Virginia Tech attacker who put four bullets in Mr. Goddard.
Do we see a pattern here? Background checks dont work. Madmen and criminals, no matter what gun laws exist, will ALWAYS be able to arm themselves.
We dont think that Mr. Goddard of Virginia Tech has evil intentions, just wrongful methods. It is perhaps right to remind ourselves of the terrific trauma he suffered from both his wounds and the event itself. It would be absolutely normal for a thinking person to feel misplaced guilt at the horrific impotence of not being able to do anything in such a ghastly situation.
But how he was turned by the Brady Bunch, and made their poster boy, befuddles me. One would think that a man contemplating a military career (ROTC), and familiar with firearms, would have come out of that horror completely enraged at the impotence inflicted upon him by idiotic and dangerous gun control laws. As he was taken to the hospital, he must have been screaming to himself: If Id only had a gun!
So there remains but one question, Mr. Goddard: Are you going to allow lawful citizens to shoot violent criminal actors, or are you going to continue to bury dead children, gunned down unchallenged because of gun control?
A curious world awaits your answer.
Respectfully, Charles Heller Executive Director, JPFO.
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I don’t have any desire to own a gun but have shot plenty and could get a gun in short order.
I live among very conservative well armed neighbors in a tiny town with virtually no crime.
Nobody thought to bar the door, they just laid down and waited for Cho to open it?
The problem, of course - and the salient point the author ignores - is that criminals, by definition, do NOT obey laws.
Thus, the law-abiding will always be at the mercy of criminals unless the law-abiding are prepared to defend themselves, and have the means to do so.
Q.E.D.
Find yourself in a situation such as a natural disaster, where your neighbors don’t have time to take care of you because they are busy taking care of themselves, and you would wish you had a gun.
Or I could be intelligent enough to actually work with my neighbors. If I need a gun I can easily borrow one from a neighbor.
Like the previous poster said...you’ll revert to your training. They were trained to call 911 and wait for the police or to be slaughter which ever came first. Sad isn’t it, somewhere in there you expect to hear sheep bleating. The govts various arms have worked long and hard to train us that initiative is a bad thing. Only the govt is smart enough and has the authority to do the tough jobs. Its preferable for you to wind up dead rather than thinking for yourself and taking action.
In a natural disaster you might just find yourself without neighbors. Just because you are left standing doesn't mean they are.
I live among very conservative well armed neighbors in a tiny town with virtually no crime.
Very bad reasoning, very bad!
Your lone gunman scenario is not the thing to fear.
At this point in our history, the left has achieved about all they can through the political process,
as is evidenced by the awakening of the sleeping giant that is the Tea Party, resisting their political advancement.
The next stage is forced implementation of leftist/communist policies, and when We the People resist that, “it’s on”. They don’t want us to have the means or the leadership to resist. This is why they were so interested in pegging, and taking out, the “Tea Party Leader” that they could never find.
As with prepping in general,
the better prepared EVERYONE is, the better off, and more able to help the need, everyone will be.
You should have preps enough to provide help to the truly needy (elderly, infirm, etc), and that includes having an “extra” gun.
Teacher wasn’t smart enough to think about it, so the little drones didn’t either.
Frightening little world you live in.
I haven’t locked my house in years and have long since lost my house key.
Is that your fell out of a boat claim for those monitoring FR?
Neighbors also may not include you in their plans so you better be ready to take care of yourself.
I don't know anything about DH, but if DH is a woman, I strongly advise her to lock her doors and windows.
a tragedy that happens in YOUR life doesn’t give you the right to control MINE....
If I see a need to get a gun I’ll have one in a matter of minutes.
Frankly I fail to foresee any disaster, natural or man made that will require me to have a gun quicker than that. I have food stored, I’ve got wood stoves, I’ve got skills, and I’ve got a network of friends and neighbors.
The lefts objective has always been absolute power, not shared power.
Absolute power cannot be achieved without violence.
At first, when the left was so desperate to find and destroy the TP “leader”, I thought it was simply a reflection of their “top-down” worldview where all power is wielded from a centralized control authority.
But, while reading “You Can Still Trust the Communists to be Communists”, I read some interesting history of communist takeovers. They not only disarm the people, but they seek out and “disappear” anyone that shows any sort of leadership ability.
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