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Cloward-Piven Paradise Now? (Good commentary)
American Thinker ^ | August 1, 2011 | Jeannie DeAngelis

Posted on 08/01/2011 10:44:05 AM PDT by jazusamo

Combine class warfare, demonizing the rich, getting as many people onto the welfare rolls as possible, and pushing the economic system to collapse and you have a flawless formula for Cloward-Piven 2.0 -- and a vehicle that ensures Obama remains in power.

Cloward-Piven is a much talked-about strategy proposed in the mid-1960's by two Columbia University sociology professors named Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. The Cloward-Piven approach was sometimes referred to as the "crisis strategy," which they believed were a means to "end poverty."

The premise of the Cloward-Piven collective/anti-capitalist gospel decried "individual mobility and achievement," celebrated organized labor, fostered the principle that "if each finally found himself in the same relative economic relationship to his fellows ... all were infinitely better off."

The duo taught that if you flooded the welfare rolls and bankrupted the cities and ultimately the nation, it would foster economic collapse, which would lead to political turmoil so severe that socialism would be accepted as a fix to an out-of-control set of circumstances.

The idea was that if people were starving and the only way to eat was to accept government cheese, rather than starve, the masses would agree to what they would otherwise reject. In essence, for the socialist-minded, the Cloward-Piven strategy is a simple formula that makes perfect sense; the radical husband-and-wife team had Saul Alinsky as their muse, and they went on to teach his social action principles to a cadre of socialist-leaning community organizers, one of whom was Barack Obama.

As the debt crisis continues to worsen, President Obama stands idly by an inferno with his arms crossed, shaking his head, and doing nothing other than kinking the fire hose and closing the spigot...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 08/01/2011 10:44:10 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

More like apocalypse now


2 posted on 08/01/2011 10:48:16 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: jazusamo

“The idea was that if people were starving and the only way to eat was to accept government cheese, rather than starve, the masses would agree to what they would otherwise reject.”

One critical aspect these clowns forgot tto take into account: WHO makes the cheese?

I.e. if everyone is forced onto the dole, then there are no farmers left to produce the milk and/or to make the cheese. F’n Idealistic short-sighted morons........


3 posted on 08/01/2011 10:50:16 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: jazusamo
We will try civil disobedience first.

WHEN that doesn't work........you guess.

4 posted on 08/01/2011 10:50:59 AM PDT by PALIN SMITH
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To: jazusamo

I don’t see how one could say this is not working very much as planned.


5 posted on 08/01/2011 10:52:07 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: therightliveswithus

Like all Marxist strategies, the brilliant minds of academia once again forgot the critical piece.

“OK, you caught the car, now what?”


6 posted on 08/01/2011 10:52:07 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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To: roaddog727

Why...on government-run farms of course. Collectives.


7 posted on 08/01/2011 10:54:05 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

It’s working so well (for now) it’s scary.


8 posted on 08/01/2011 10:55:04 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
The duo taught that if you flooded the welfare rolls and bankrupted the cities and ultimately the nation, it would foster economic collapse, which would lead to political turmoil so severe that socialism would be accepted as a fix to an out-of-control set of circumstances.

That's a gamble as risky as the bet by a handful of hotheaded southern states that secession would result in, at worst, a short war which most of the nation did not have the stomach to fight.

9 posted on 08/01/2011 10:55:22 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: jazusamo

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10 posted on 08/01/2011 10:55:40 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Sorry - I can’t work - I’m on the dole.


11 posted on 08/01/2011 10:56:05 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: jazusamo
HAS ANYBODY SEEN THIS???


US DAY OF RAGE, SEPTEMBER 17

12 posted on 08/01/2011 10:56:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Bill Maher said that people don’t have an accurate view of socialism. He said that people have these ideas that everyone is on a collective farm, and that this is inaccurate. He said that socialism is simply another political party or political movement in Europe, and that people still have all their freedoms.

Not saying I agree with Bill Maher, just that as a prominent liberal Hollywood idiot type, that’s what he tells his viewers.


13 posted on 08/01/2011 10:59:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: jazusamo
See tag line.
14 posted on 08/01/2011 11:01:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jazusamo
I hope they continue. I don't want there to be any doubts when they are kneeling on the edge of a ditch with a gun barrel at their heads.

This can't last.

15 posted on 08/01/2011 11:04:24 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: jazusamo
Could it be that Barack Obama is purposely pressuring the system in a premeditated effort to foster a major crisis? One that would demand extraordinary measures to control by a President

I do think Obama sees himself more as Lincoln than as FDR.

Eliminating the wage slavery of capitalism could justify, in his mind, the same type of conflict that justified the end of chattel slavery in the mind of Lincoln.

16 posted on 08/01/2011 11:07:26 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: jazusamo

We are at a point where the number of people that work for a living are outnumbered by the number of people that vote for a living.


17 posted on 08/01/2011 11:08:28 AM PDT by DKM
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To: jazusamo
The very subject denominated "Sociology," in America, has been a preserve--and launch pad--for those who embrace Jacobin, Marxist, Bolshevik & Fabian pursuits of a Totalitarian leveling of humanity. While the two crack-brained individuals, named here, may have systematized the assault on truth & nature, the underlying assault has been much broader.

It is multi-sourced, appealing to both compulsion driven neurotics seeking uniformity of the human condition, and to demagogues like Robespierre, Marx, Lenin, Hitler & Obama, who see the Egalitarian compulsion & the play on the basest of human emotions, as a key to the aggrandizement of self--a key to the ability to strut as the "Leader."

I have, today, posted as the August feature at the Truth Based Logic Domain, Egalitarian Collectivism Sabotages The Human Potential.

Having challenged these malevolent poseurs ever since my own school days, it is my experience, that they are the ultimate pseudo-intellectual bullies. They mislead & intimidate trusting undergraduates, but never debate those who actually understand what is involved. My prayer is that America will yet wake up to the fact that no one--absolutely no one, but demagogues & scoundrels--actually benefits from what has been going on.

William Flax

18 posted on 08/01/2011 11:08:28 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: MestaMachine

We’ve had em before.

Every time Al Sharpton wakes up in a grumpy mood he tries to gather a crowd and calls it a “day of rage.”


19 posted on 08/01/2011 11:09:39 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: roaddog727

Mao did the same and starved tens of millions of his adoring subjects.

His picture still hangs over the Forbidden City across from Tianmen Square and the Chinese think he’s some kind of God.


20 posted on 08/01/2011 11:10:17 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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