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Cloward-Piven Paradise Now? (Good commentary)
American Thinker ^ | August 1, 2011 | Jeannie DeAngelis

Posted on 08/01/2011 10:44:05 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: Noumenon

Yet another great post from you, Noumenon! I agree completely!

CA....


41 posted on 08/01/2011 12:01:28 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: SMARTY

Get the point? Huh???

This guy and his minions have, since January 20, 2009, completely ignored us, the American people. Even in the face of an election rebuff he himself termed as a “shellacking”.

You think at this point in time he is going to “get the point”?

I don’t think so, and neither do very many other people here.

CA....


42 posted on 08/01/2011 12:07:46 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: jazusamo

It’s hard to feel sorry for “the rich”.

They pretty much support Obama and his liberal horde.


43 posted on 08/01/2011 12:08:20 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: roaddog727

>> “if everyone is forced onto the dole, then there are no farmers left to produce the milk and/or to make the cheese.” <<

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Soviet Policy 101

(didn’t work)

The lazy have, from the infinite past, and into the infinite future, imagined producers to be born to produce, thus lacking a need for motivation. It must be something in the water.


44 posted on 08/01/2011 12:19:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Tzimisce

>> It’s hard to feel sorry for “the rich”. <<

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You apparently have failed to come to grips with the fact that by the left’s definition, YOU are the “rich.”


45 posted on 08/01/2011 12:26:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: jazusamo
To those of us who have been arguing this same thesis for years here on Free Republic, this article comes as a welcome confirmation to our theory.

We have connected the dots running from The Frankfurt School through Cloward and Piven to Saul Alinsky and to his posthumous acolyte, Barak Obama. We have argued from the beginning that Barack Obama is an ideologue and it misconceives our adversary to dismiss him as an incompetent. If our thesis is correct it misdirects our efforts to tell the electorate that they should not believe the evidence of their own eyes. The fact of the matter is that Obama makes a very presidential appearance and, if necessary, he can perform more than adequately without teleprompters.

The condition of the country is the results of his ideology not his incompetence.

More importantly, this characterization of the man, even if arrived at belatedly properly appraises us of the nature of our enemy and forces us to face the hard reality that there can never be any decent accommodation of any sort with him. He must he be defeated and his ideology must be destroyed. If not, he and his ideology will destroy us.

If our Republican paladins in the house had had a better understanding of the man, perhaps they would have negotiated differently. Perhaps they will pay attention to the American Thinker as they did not give heed to our warnings.


46 posted on 08/01/2011 12:43:16 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Excellent post, thank you.


47 posted on 08/01/2011 12:56:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Ohioan
And in understanding this, you need to consider the compulsive pursuit of uniformity--the neurotic need to deny all the important qualities that make each of us unique.

Yes, indeed. You've touched upon something very important here. In the course of working on my book, I've identified what may be called the corollary of the will to power: the desire to submit.

"He [Albert Camus] had noticed a modern impulse to rebel, which had come out of the French Revolution and the nineteenth century and had very quickly, in the name of an ideal, mutated into a cult of death. And the ideal was always the same, though each movement gave it a different name. It was not skepticism and doubt. It was the ideal of submission."
Paul Berman - Terror and Liberalism p46

Breathtaking, isn't it? Eric Hoffer, noted American philosopher, grants us another perspective – what I have come to call the tyranny of the weak:

"It has often been said that power corrupts. But it is perhaps equally important to realize that weakness, too, corrupts. Power corrupts the few, while weakness corrupts the many. Hatred, malice, rudeness, intolerance, and suspicion are the faults of weakness. The resentment of the weak does not spring from any injustice done to them but from their sense of inadequacy and impotence. We cannot win the weak by sharing our wealth with them. They feel our generosity as oppression."

The weak and the power-driven are co-dependants in a horribly addictive scheme whose outcome is worse than war - wholesale slaughter, committed with energy and enthusiasm, and the imposition of cruelty, misery and slavery upon the survivors.

Again, thanks for youur insights and your clarity.

48 posted on 08/01/2011 1:24:38 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Truth29

Ever hear of Kent State?


49 posted on 08/01/2011 1:33:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Truth29
would the law enforcement and military personnel fire on the citizenry?

Are you kidding? they already do.

50 posted on 08/01/2011 1:43:44 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Ohioan

We liken this to the Prisoner’s Dilemma. The question is how long will the ‘true believers’ trust in their ‘Leaders’ while being betrayed the whole time. It happens every instance a population foregoes self reliance.
‘You can fool some of the people, some of the time...’
This isn’t about anything but pure adulterated power for those in charge.


51 posted on 08/01/2011 1:44:23 PM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: Trailerpark Badass; greeneyes
On a mass basis liked Assad in Syria. Tanks against demonstrators until there are no more demonstrators. I wonder if units would follow such orders or if the command structure would fracture.
52 posted on 08/01/2011 1:49:32 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: jazusamo; All
Great article, and not surprisingly great comments.
53 posted on 08/01/2011 1:53:48 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: Truth29

It’s a good question. Same one I asked the night that Yeltsin stood up and demanded release of the Soviet Premier, while the tanks rolled down the street.

That is when I felt, the Russian system would change, because the military was no longer willing to blindly follow orders.


54 posted on 08/01/2011 2:02:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Truth29
Waco.

Believe it, most 19 year-old PFCs and lance corporals will follow orders to disarm racist right-wing racists and homophobes and Christian zealots and rich people who don't want "shared sacrifice."

55 posted on 08/01/2011 2:12:04 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Truth29
Waco.

Believe it, most 19 year-old PFCs and lance corporals will follow orders to disarm racist right-wing racists and homophobes and Christian zealots and rich people who don't want "shared sacrifice."

56 posted on 08/01/2011 2:12:20 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: MestaMachine
From the web site. You can't make this stuff up...

Below are the principles of US Day or Rage:

1.Non Violence

57 posted on 08/01/2011 2:15:24 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: therightliveswithus

Cloward-Piven Strategy = Barackolypse How (to)


58 posted on 08/01/2011 2:22:34 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Noumenon; Ohioan

I just finished reading: “Captains and the Kings”, by Taylor Caldwell.

Highly recommended reading. A fact-based fiction written around 1970 with a story beginning at the time of the civil war, it lays out these globalist games pretty well.


59 posted on 08/01/2011 2:55:40 PM PDT by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: roaddog727

Worse than short sighted-—absolutely ignorant of human nature. I’m pretty sure I have enough firepower to take away THEIR cheeze before they get a chance to enjoy it.


60 posted on 08/01/2011 3:28:33 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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