Posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:56 AM PDT by RummyChick
As you wake up, here is what you need to know.
John Boehner thinks he has the votes to pass his third plan out of the House. Work to make sure he does not by going to http://www.redstate.com/action and calling your member of Congress. Tell them to oppose Boehner’s plan.
Even if you are sympathetic to Boehner’s plan, here is why it must be killed — it is a trap.
Pay attention please.
Harry Reid and all the Senate Democrats have sent John Boehner a letter saying they will oppose his plan in the Senate. In other words, Boehner’s plan, given the GOP votes in the Senate pledged to vote against it, will get less votes in both the House and in the Senate than Cut, Cap, and Balance.
Here, though, is why it is important to kill John Boehner’s plan this very morning before today’s vote.
John Boehner’s plan will get to the Senate. Harry Reid’s plan isn’t even in final form and has not even started making its way through the Senate’s arcane processes. It is a trap.
Harry Reid will amend John Boehner’s plan and include parts of Reid’s own plan that make tax increases even more likely than Boehner’s already does.
Senate Democrats last night were beginning to talk about adding the Gang of Six’s very bad plan to it as well — a trigger that would be engaged should the Democrats then refuse to reform entitlements, i.e. a trigger the Democrats will gladly engage because the Gang of Six plan raises taxes, including getting rid of the employer credit for active duty military reservists and raising the capital gains tax from 15% to 28%.
Then the Senate Democrats will send John Boehner back his own plan and dare John Boehner to kill his very own proposal. Should he try, the GOP will look as hardline and unwilling to compromise as John Boehner’s acolytes have been accusing conservatives of being this week.
In other words, John Boehner, once he sends his plan to the Senate, will yet again get played and the GOP will be forced to either accept Harry Reid’s awful changes or be blamed for causing the nation’s default — the very thing the GOP has sought to avoid.
Oh, and should the GOP fold and pass the modified Boehner plan, they’ll still get blamed for us losing our credit rating. Even with Boehner’s revisions, the Congressional Budget Office says the plan doesn’t cut even $1 trillion. It doesn’t meet S&P’s requirements.
Well done, Republicans.
The only thing we can do is call our congressmen and prevent them from voting for this suicide pact. Go here now.
The jaws are closed once it gets out of the Senate..and it will unless Demint can stop it.
NY-29’s Tom Reed is gonna vote for Boehner’s bill...
I'm beginning to believe that this is exactly what the establishment GOP wants. These guys love cutting deals with the DemocRats and could care less if they're in the minority. Conservatives staying home assures these cretins of being able to make all the deals that they want. The problem is, they'll be joining in the destruction of this country.
more proof it is a trap
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/28/more-proof-it-is-a-trap/
From Mike Allen’s Playbook in the Politico today comes this quote from a “top Democrat”:
“The press will obsess about [today’s House] vote [on the Boehner Two-Step], but at best it is an exercise in political machismo, at worst it is the beginning of the most irresponsible act in Congressional history. The House bill is dead on arrival in the Senate — at least 58 senators are on record saying they won’t support it. That’s worse than Ryan and cut, cap and balance. Once the vote is over, Speaker Boehner needs to begin immediately working on a way out of the mess Cantor created. If he doesn’t, we could be in big trouble. There are dozens of possible compromises — he just has to take one. Reid, McConnell and the White House have plenty of options. The question is: Will he choose compromise for the sake of the country, or political grandstanding for the sake of his caucus?”
But wait!!!
All the Republicans keep telling us that this is the best they can hope for. How is it the best they can hope for when it is going to get less votes in the House and Senate than either Paul Ryan’s plan or Cut, Cap, and Balance.
In negotiations you ask for more than you want in order to get what you want. Instead we start out with what the Tea Party wants. Then they say "There's no way the dems would go for that, we better cut it back". Then they negotiate with the RINOs in the house and cut it back more. Then they negotiate wth the Republicans in the Senate and cut it back even more. Finally a shredded little hint of the original plan is given to the Democrats to declare dead on arrival, without the Dems ever actually having to put their plans on paper for everyone to compare.
Cram through the original Tea Party wish list and then force the Dems in the Senate negotiate some of it away in order to get the debt ceiling increase which is unfortunately needed. Instead we proceed like the original 2011 continuing resolution which was supposed to be $100 billion cut, reduced to $60 billion, reduced to $20 billion and finally reduced to less than a billion in actual cuts.
Bingo...
because really it is very simple.
If your child came to you and wanted $100.00 and you are
broke - you tell them “now is not a good time” - “come back
later when I have some money”...
I have two words for Tom Reed: Randy Kuhl :)
OK, found most of them on twitter and tweeted. (Geez that sounds like a child’s game...I hate twitter. lol)
Tweet Demint and beg him to stop the plan from getting out of the Senate.
Once again, snatching defeat from the very jaws of victory!!
Among others....I believe Mrs. Palin had it exactly right. "Hey Rep. Boehner...NO!
“Cut, Cap, and Balance” may also be a trap.
The legislation, as written, gives a federal judge an excuse to strike down the balanced budget amendment legislation AFTER it is passed, but BEFORE it gets ratified, preventing that states from voting to ratify but still giving the Dems the cap increase they want.
In the linked article:
The problem is that the courts have held that during the Constitution’s amendment process all proposing, applying, and ratifying bodies act as “Article V assemblies” (my phrase), and not in their normal legislative capacities. Moreover, within their assigned agendas, Article V assemblies must enjoy freedom of deliberation. If the debt limit rule (adopted by Congress and the President in a legislative capacity) puts pressure on Congress (in its Article V capacity), then arguably the discretion of the proposing body has been unconstitutionally infringed. If this argument were accepted, the proposed BBA would be void. (I explain the cases in another context in this Goldwater Institute paper.)
I would guess that thinking comes from knowing that 1) the leftist media will beat the drum that the GOP killed the deal; and 2) the average moron in this country will believe the leftist line - after all “I heard it on TV so it must be true!” (Or as a subset of the average moron, the welfare voters and the minority voters will automatically believe it’s the Republicans fault.) So while you and I may see the issue clearly, the average voter just isn’t going to understand, and some don’t even want to.
I stopped listening to Rush when he started talking up Redstates article as if it was all his own idea... and then didn’t mention Redstate at all. Apparently, he later in the broadcast did give an attribution to Red State.
ThinkProgress is an American political blog edited by Faiz Shakir that "provide[s] a forum that advances progressive ideas and policies". It is an outlet of the Center for American Progress.
Slightly less liberal than the Worker's Daily. Or not.
The political trickery here is that the GOP leaders get the Tea Party votes to pass Boehner’s plan while Dems vote no, then after its modified by Reid, they’ll get to vote against it since House Dems will provide the yes votes for the final version.
Neat political trickery.
Many RINO’s will also get to vote no on final version modified by Reid and look good politically.
Lets all look good supporting the Boehner plan, then get to vote no and look good again.
Kind of like the tax code......
Oh sorry, I thought she meant RedState. I posted Thinkprogress because it gave the names and the medium in which they garnered the info on the yes or no vote.
Tea Party is caving left and right . If she doubts that just do a little research.
You’re right. The democrats are fanatics and true believers who learned from their secular god karl marx that “history is on their side”.
They have no reason to compromise. None at all.
I am shocked I tell you. Shocked!
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