Posted on 07/28/2011 9:28:56 AM PDT by RummyChick
As you wake up, here is what you need to know.
John Boehner thinks he has the votes to pass his third plan out of the House. Work to make sure he does not by going to http://www.redstate.com/action and calling your member of Congress. Tell them to oppose Boehners plan.
Even if you are sympathetic to Boehners plan, here is why it must be killed it is a trap.
Pay attention please.
Harry Reid and all the Senate Democrats have sent John Boehner a letter saying they will oppose his plan in the Senate. In other words, Boehners plan, given the GOP votes in the Senate pledged to vote against it, will get less votes in both the House and in the Senate than Cut, Cap, and Balance.
Here, though, is why it is important to kill John Boehners plan this very morning before todays vote.
John Boehners plan will get to the Senate. Harry Reids plan isnt even in final form and has not even started making its way through the Senates arcane processes. It is a trap.
Harry Reid will amend John Boehners plan and include parts of Reids own plan that make tax increases even more likely than Boehners already does.
Senate Democrats last night were beginning to talk about adding the Gang of Sixs very bad plan to it as well a trigger that would be engaged should the Democrats then refuse to reform entitlements, i.e. a trigger the Democrats will gladly engage because the Gang of Six plan raises taxes, including getting rid of the employer credit for active duty military reservists and raising the capital gains tax from 15% to 28%.
Then the Senate Democrats will send John Boehner back his own plan and dare John Boehner to kill his very own proposal. Should he try, the GOP will look as hardline and unwilling to compromise as John Boehners acolytes have been accusing conservatives of being this week.
In other words, John Boehner, once he sends his plan to the Senate, will yet again get played and the GOP will be forced to either accept Harry Reids awful changes or be blamed for causing the nations default the very thing the GOP has sought to avoid.
Oh, and should the GOP fold and pass the modified Boehner plan, theyll still get blamed for us losing our credit rating. Even with Boehners revisions, the Congressional Budget Office says the plan doesnt cut even $1 trillion. It doesnt meet S&Ps requirements.
Well done, Republicans.
The only thing we can do is call our congressmen and prevent them from voting for this suicide pact. Go here now.
Blah blah blah all around. If it’s a trap it’s one the average person does not care about.
I follow this stuff every day and I’m sick of it. Obviously neither Boehner’s or Reid’s plan will pass. Don’t see how passing B’s plan in the House makes any difference, in terms of a trap.
Only way not to be blamed is to pass something.
This is all posturing till the real thing.
We all know that West guy is such a pantywaist. /s/
The House sent the CCB budget to the Senate what, a month ago ??
Force the Senate to deal in plain sight with what was sent, or take the heat for not doing so.
That 02Aug 'deadline' is a WhiteHut strawman.
Japan seems to be doing pretty well with a AA rating.
NO, as Trump said...Republicans are horrible Negotiators.
They should have given Demint the weekend to get his votes. He was only 4 away from forcing a vote on CCB.
Boehner manufacturered the Asian Market Emergency crisis to cut off Demint.
Sure, let’s deliver Boehner a defeat. That makes sense.
NOT.
Republican supporters of this cave-in legislation cite one of two reasons for their support (neither of which addresses the so-called "positive attributes" of the bill):
1. We're so weak this is the best we can do even though it falls far short of what we want, blah...blah...blah; or
2. At least it's not Harry Reid's bill.
(Such ringing endorsements portray a sense of defeatism which, I think, will ultimately hurt Republicans in 2012.)
Its all so freakin confusing.... its almost by design
It is a trap! If this bill passes the House, why can’t Boehner put something in this bill that prevents the Senate from tweaking it in any way! Is this even possible?
Yes, they should do nothing. They already passed CCB, and so Boehner should tell Reid and Obama to take it or leave it, and then adjourn the House for the August recess, leaving them holding the bag.
When it comes back to the house after being altered all it will need to pass is a handfull of Republican rinos + all the democrats.
Once it leaves the house the conservative voting block won’t be able to stop it.
They need to kill it! Don’t let it pass the house!
Dude, go tell it to Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin..because they also think it is a trap.
The political trickery here is that the GOP leaders get the Tea Party votes to pass Boehner’s plan while Dems vote no, then after its modified by Reid, they’ll get to vote against it since House Dems will provide the yes votes for the final version.
Neat political trickery.
Many RINO’s will also get to vote no on final version modified by Reid and look good politically.
Lets all look good supporting the Boehner plan, then get to vote no and look good again.
I’m wishing now that Boehner would have cried because he lost the House Speaker position! We wouldn’t be in this position had he lost...IMHO!
They are in one now.
You’re right. Call those who still oppose this crap. I can’t believe Allen West caved on this.
Exactly. As I said above, it's not as if CCB is extreme. It's a reasonable bill. If Harry Reid wants to debate the matter, then he should bring CCB to the floor. After all, it has already been passed. Why should Boehner give Reid most of what he is asking for even BEFORE it is debated in the Senate--under Reid's management?
Every single person..and I mean every one on this site that makes posts like you should be banned from complaining about what is passed....because if Boehner gets this through today what comes backs to the House will be passed.
You are right, of course and you are also wasting your breath. This place has turned into a haven of the blind and stupid. Full of people who simply cannot get past the “I want it ALL or the nation be damned”.
If Boehner can pass ANYTHING which cuts any spending and limits the debt ceiling increase to LESS then the spending cuts it is a win and a starting place.
Think about the Muni Unions who have gone from paying ZERO toward benefits to now paying something. Small steps yes they are. But it is a beginning and you can BET the next contract will have them paying even more.
It has taken 65 YEARS to get us here and it will not be undone in 1 legislative vote, especially when the opposition controls 2/3 of the process.
Pull you heads out of your asses and stop acting like crybaby liberals.
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