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BREAKING NEWS: ATF attaché calls Gunwalker 'perfect storm of idiocy'
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | July 26, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 07/27/2011 6:26:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

A Joint Staff Report prepared for Rep. Darrell Issa of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and Sen. Chuck Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee has just been released today.

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Of significance, former ATF attaché to Mexico, Darren Gil and his deputy, Carlos Canino confirm reports made early on by Gun Rights Examiner and Sipsey Street Irregulars that not only was this information withheld from them, but also from the Mexican government—despite repeated questioning and objections leading to “screaming matches” registered with management.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batf; castaway; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; issa; mexico; obama
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To: FlyVet
"Idiocy" is letting them off the hook. That's a whole lot of deliberate, well-coordinated, premeditated idiocy by a whole lot of people.

Exactly.

This was not just some dumb bureaucratic SNAFU. It was a fore-planned, full scale operation ($80 million and counting) that involved many higher-ups in several agencies.

Further, we know that the Justice Deptartment one of those agencies, so it's absurd to think that this was going down without approval from the Whitehouse.

61 posted on 07/27/2011 9:29:19 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Texas Fossil

opened a can of worms?.

Cool. It’s time to go fishing for big ‘uns.


62 posted on 07/27/2011 9:30:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Texas Fossil

I read the congressional report on this linked in the article. We learned that ATF is trained to never let a gun out of their control in a sting operation. In spite of that policy and professional training, ATF purposfully let a ton of guns out of their control and armed a drug cartel in Mexico. It was not “idiocy.” We know the cartels in Mexico are affiliated with Islamic terrorists who are perched on our border and have cells all over the US. Homeland Security knows this.

We know the excuse the DOJ/ATF used to run the guns is a cover up. They had no intention of running a sting on arms suppliers and they kept the operation going even while they were told there was no sting in their operation - just gun running abetting enemies of Mexico and the US. They kept it going as long as they could - until it hit the news after agent Terry was murdered. The master minds of this operation and their collaborators were the arms suppliers to bad guys affiliated with Islamic terrorists in Mexico.

Who are the domestic terrorists in America? Granny at the airport, Obama’s political and social enemies or the DOJ and ATF agents running arms to drug cartels associated with Islamic terror forces in Mexico?

The DOD should be handling the investigation of this treason. This was a domestic terrorist attack on the US and one of our allies conducted by Homland Security insiders.


63 posted on 07/27/2011 10:03:48 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Texas Fossil

bttt


64 posted on 07/27/2011 10:46:12 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Participants in F & F are worse than traitors, and, Name by Name, their names belong on the BIG LIST-—those people who mean the country harm and must go first if push comes to shove.


65 posted on 07/27/2011 11:13:56 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: left that other site

Simple: the truth would expose them as criminal, they are therefore seeking to limit what can be seen/spoken.


66 posted on 07/27/2011 12:02:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Indeed.


67 posted on 07/27/2011 12:12:53 PM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: Texas Fossil

How many people did Watergate kill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Or7zO0HVOw


68 posted on 07/27/2011 1:10:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: FlyVet
Hey if a POTUS can get away with sex in the Oval Office with an intern....Lying to a GJ about it...And probable rape, probable sexual assault, etc. etc....Then this is small potatoes.

Nothing will happen here.

History is a good barometer.

69 posted on 07/27/2011 1:12:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange

Democraps are not going to hold one of their own responsible for the deaths of a few Mexicans and border agents, given that they have used the slaughter of millions as an empowerment scheme for decades. There is no conscience int he demcorat party or apparently their voters.


70 posted on 07/27/2011 1:14:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Right, but I want to know WHO sent the letter. I don’t like letting these crooks hide behind a government acronym. This is PEOPLE just like you and me that are doing this mess. Not the government, People.


71 posted on 07/27/2011 1:34:03 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Texas Fossil

IMPEACHMENT OF HOLDER ASSURED

HOLDER: “ I did have sex with that rifle and loved every minute of it!”

IMPEACHMENT OF OBAMA POSSIBLE

Obama: “ I did NOT have sex with that rifle!!!”


72 posted on 07/27/2011 1:53:00 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Texas Fossil

Idiocy?

No. Intent.


73 posted on 07/27/2011 3:14:44 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Yep. Correcto, it is by Intent. And the cockroaches who did this do not like the daylight shined on them. hee hee hee


74 posted on 07/27/2011 3:19:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

btt


75 posted on 07/27/2011 3:55:35 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Texas Fossil

I sure those folks stationed and working in Mexico do not want to spend time in a Mexican Jail


76 posted on 07/27/2011 4:10:35 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Soul of the South
"Unfortunately when a tree falls in the forest a sound is only heard if someone is there at the time it falls. The mainstream media is not going to cover this story under a Democrat administration. Were a Republican in office, this story would be front page everyday in the NYT and WP as well as the lead story on NBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC.

All it takes is a Senator with the guts of an Ann Coulter to say that "This President's administration has been involved in a secret plot to terrorize and slaughter as many Mexicans as possible, and is now trying to cover it up."

77 posted on 07/27/2011 4:29:34 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: Osage Orange

>Hey if a POTUS can get away with sex in the Oval Office with an intern....Lying to a GJ about it...And probable rape, probable sexual assault, etc. etc....Then this is small potatoes.

No way; this is much larger: it is a legitimate act of war on a foreign nation.
(And we would likely be just as upset if some country were sending weapons, not to groups saying they want to overthrow the government, but groups that are actively killing anyone who interferes with their ‘business’ and who have a not statistically-insignificant chance of destroying the government.)

There is also some legitimate case that it is a conspiracy against rights (18USC241) as there is (IIRC) a treaty w/ Mexico which prohibits firearm trafficking that their government did not approve of; and the constitution says that treaties “shall be the law of the land.” Less provable, but probably more likely, is that Fast & Furious is a 18USC241 violation against the 2nd Amendment.

>Nothing will happen here.
>History is a good barometer.

I wish, very fervently, that is not the case.
Ironically, this is a good case to show that the Judicial System is not broken by meting out the severest of possible punishments to ALL involved no matter how high it goes... and this is precisely what we are seeing being resisted, not only investigation into how high it goes, but resisting all punishment altogether.

What is ironic about this whole situation is that it may prove that the US Government is worse than the Mexican government: at least the Mexican government does not pretend that corruption is not a problem. (Whereas there are *many* who would crow about how the US is “the least corrupt government in the world.”)


78 posted on 07/27/2011 4:35:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Is there a Mexican Government or do the cartels rule Mexico?"

Maybe someone should call out Felipe Calderone on this issue for his tacit approval engendered by silence.

79 posted on 07/27/2011 4:36:49 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: cookcounty

>>”Unfortunately when a tree falls in the forest a sound is only heard if someone is there at the time it falls. The mainstream media is not going to cover this story under a Democrat administration. Were a Republican in office, this story would be front page everyday in the NYT and WP as well as the lead story on NBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC.
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>All it takes is a Senator with the guts of an Ann Coulter to say that “This President’s administration has been involved in a secret plot to terrorize and slaughter as many Mexicans as possible, and is now trying to cover it up.”

Indeed; let us frankly call it what it is: an act of war against a sovereign nation.


80 posted on 07/27/2011 4:37:57 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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