Posted on 07/14/2011 7:41:51 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
Edited on 07/14/2011 9:13:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Reid says Cantor's conduct during the sensitive White House talks have shown, in Reid's words, "he shouldn't even be at the table." Reid says other congressional leaders are negotiating in good faith as an Aug. 2 deadline approaches for raising the debt limit.
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Ried does do a fake “umble” very well.
I sadly hate Charles Dickens. We had to read different books over-and-over in advanced English (a foreign language class) in what you would call junior high.
The teacher made us each read two pages aloud in class for weeks. So painful.
I hated it.
-——it’s proof that Cantor should be there——
I will venture to say Cantor is the only one there that fully understands both the problem and the solution. He is the expert
The President knows only what he is told. He has no understanding. He is after all a novice, a neophyte.
Uriah Heep is a fictional character created by Charles Dickens in his novel David Copperfield. The character is notable for his cloying humility, obsequiousness, and insincerity, making frequent references to his own "'umbleness". His name has become synonymous with being a yes man.
Yikes---- wouldn't want to name my band 'Harry Reid' either.
There is a large group - true - led by Michele Bachmann and others, who have said they are against increasing the debt ceiling no matter what else might be in the bill. But as for her being in on the talks... Believe me, I would enjoy that scenario immensely, but neither side, ours or theirs, would invite her in. Now for her part, would she rather be in the talks, or be out on the campaign trail?? Hmmmmmm.....
Dear Harry,
Shove it up .... ...!
A Friend
Well Cantor objected to Boehner’s wanting to agree with Obozo’s grand agreement about a week ago. Causing Boehner to back down!
He would have to have Democrat votes, as I understand it, along with the GOP who will go along with it, to counter the fact that a sizable GOP block will not vote for it, period.
I don’t know that no Democrats would vote for it. Stranger, much stranger things have happened. There are still a few blue dogs who want to appear fiscally conservative...never mind if they are fakes. When a congressional seat is on the line in an upcoming election, it matters.
Bottom line, I surmise from what I do know, that Boehner needs votes from both parties in order to pass certain legislation in the House.
If he knows he has those votes - and that’s the WHIP’s job to count them - then he can represent that in the negotiations, regardless of where those votes come from.
It’s not up to you, Dingy.
Boehner would not be advocating the dollar-for-dollar approach for months by ANY reliance on a single Democratic vote.
The most conservative members of the GOP caucus can be whipped into a yes vote, if necessary. They have about 28 votes to spare.
There is no way the Speaker would be out on a limb if he didn’t have the assurance of his own caucus. Otherwise, the GOP should just fold the tent and give Obama his clean debt increase and let him own it.
Apparently, it is Cantor who is keeping the ball-less and spine-less Beohner and other GOP’ers involved, in check. Good for him, at least someone has a set and a spine.
And go to hell, Reid...grab a tissue and shut the hell up. =.=
Friend, you have bought a whole load of it.
That never happened. The media claimed it did, but even then, only to an extent. The media claimed Cantor didn’t want Boehner to enter negotiations for a grand deal. We do not know it that is true or not. Please understand...we do not know if that was ever true.
But the bottom line is that Speaker Boehner is never going to agree to tax hikes. That is his policy. And in the grand deal negotiations, the Speaker ended them over the weekend, saying that Obama wanted him to raise taxes in return for very little coming from his side, and he isn’t going to raise taxes, and so he left those talks.
That is the truth.
You and the rest of us will be so much better off if you once and for all bury the ridiculous notion that Boehner is trying to raise taxes and Cantor is trying to stop him.
Now THAT is us some good news! Let the dim house of cards begin it’s collapse! WOOHOO!
Ping.....to post #117...yew betcha!
Day-um, now I can’t stop thinking about what kind of rock band would name itself “Harry Reid”
You derailed my train of thought
LOL!
We should all contact Cantor, give him support and tell him to use bozo's words against him. Get tough, boys. Don't allow bozo to insult you. Hold your ground, and don't back down. We The People are with you.
Go to www.marklevinshow.com, and listen his show on 7/13..go to audio and download on this date under audio rewind. Mark, a constitutional lawyer/expert explains a strategy the GOP should use, as well as the facts vs obozo’s lies, and pass this on to every one you know.
I disagree.
We agree that we disagree.
Can some of the reluctant GOP be “whipped” into voting for it? I do not know. You say they can. Until they are, I do not know.
If I am not mistaken, the agreement that passed during the lame duck had to be passed in the house with both democrat and GOP votes. Boehner was for that agreement, even though he did not really like it. Most of us thought it was really bad, and Boehner could not deliver a sizable number of his own caucus even while trying to get them to vote for it.
I realize the new Congress had not been seated and Boehner was not yet Speaker. But my point is he negotiated the agreement and pushed it and tried to get his caucus to vote for it. A sizable number of leftists Democrats refused to vote for the agreement, thereby making it essential that both GOP and Dems vote for it in sufficient numbers, since on both sides you had people refusing to vote for it, for different reasons.
I will wait to see what happens. If such legislation is drafted and voted on, I will watch to see if, as you iron clad predict, not a single Dem votes for it, and enough GOP who are against it will be whipped into yes votes.
Then, we will revisit this disagreement.
Wrong.
Boehner set the policy. No tax increases.
Stylistically the two men are different. On substance they are the same.
Anything else is fantasy, not fact.
The Majority Leader, Cantor, is not in charge of the Speaker.
No more than the Vice President is in charge of the President.
Bush's problem was that he hardly used the veto pen. He could have stopped a lot of this insane spending -- but deep down, he was not bothered by the spending.
Fact: Cantor > Beohner all day long. =.=
So you can’t say for sure that it was not what happened. I don’t trust Boehner to pull this out with out some prodding and pushing from the Tea Party crowd.
I really wish I had your faith in the guy, I don’t.
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