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In Israel, diggers unearth the Bible's bad guys
Charlotte observer ^ | 7-8-11

Posted on 07/08/2011 5:19:43 AM PDT by SJackson

TEL EL-SAFI, Israel At the remains of an ancient metropolis in southern Israel, archaeologists are piecing together the history of a people remembered chiefly as the bad guys of the Hebrew Bible.

The city of Gath, where the annual digging season began this week, is helping scholars paint a more nuanced portrait of the Philistines, who appear in the biblical story as the perennial enemies of the Israelites.

Close to three millennia ago, Gath was on the frontier between the Philistines, who occupied the Mediterranean coastal plain, and the Israelites, who controlled the inland hills. The city's most famous resident, according to the Book of Samuel, was Goliath - the giant warrior improbably felled by the young shepherd David and his sling.

The Philistines "are the ultimate other, almost, in the biblical story," said Aren Maeir of Bar-Ilan University, the archaeologist in charge of the excavation.

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canaan; canaanites; catastrophism; gath; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; letshavejerusalem; philistia; philistine; philistines; tellessafi
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1 posted on 07/08/2011 5:19:46 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

> the giant warrior improbably felled by the young shepherd
> David and his sling.

No bias there.
/sarc


2 posted on 07/08/2011 5:28:59 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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3 posted on 07/08/2011 5:33:26 AM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping!............


4 posted on 07/08/2011 5:40:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: Westbrook

“Improbably felled” in this context means he was felled in a manner that was improbable, not that the story is improbable.

A little sensitive for a Friday morning, aren’t we?


5 posted on 07/08/2011 5:45:48 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: Westbrook
" No bias there"

I'm not so sure. I had to read that part a couple times. They don't say allegedly felled by, they say improbably felled by.

Think about it, if you were in the Philistine camp and some young punk with a sling persists in mocking and calling out your biggest goon, your going to think the chances of that biggest goon getting killed are "improbable".

6 posted on 07/08/2011 5:48:45 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: cizinec

> “Improbably felled” in this context means he was felled
> in a manner that was improbable, not that the story is
> improbable.

A distinction without a difference.

> A little sensitive for a Friday morning, aren’t we?

So, there is no anti Judeo-Christian bias in the news. I’m just being “sensitive”, right?


7 posted on 07/08/2011 5:51:40 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook
I have made several of these kinds of slings for my two boys. They are a lot of fun. You can sling big stones a long way. They make a humming sound as they leave the sling.


8 posted on 07/08/2011 5:51:46 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Westbrook

If you read the story carefully, it doesn’t look like the stone, actually killed him. Probably stunned him or momwntarily knocked him out, but it took his beheading to kill him.

The sling was a military weapon that could kill most men, because stones the size of a man’s fist were use and they were thrown in high velocities.


9 posted on 07/08/2011 5:53:58 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
Here is another proven weapon for killing Philistines:

The jawbone of an ass.

10 posted on 07/08/2011 5:59:44 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Slump Tester
If there was reasonable measures like sling control registration and increased taxes on stones, this would never have happened, Think of the chillrin!
11 posted on 07/08/2011 5:59:47 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: Jonty30
From 1st Samuel 17 ...

  1. So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.

  2. Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled.

OK. You could read it either way: that Goliath was dead when he hit the ground, or that he died when David removed his head. Given the nature of oriental narrative, I submit that you are correct in assuming the latter is more likely.

12 posted on 07/08/2011 6:13:11 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook

You are correct. No Bias.

I think your spidey senses are off today.


13 posted on 07/08/2011 6:23:53 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: SJackson

dey vas Greeks! Hellenes!


14 posted on 07/08/2011 6:42:29 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Westbrook
These biased liberals who write these articles want to revise history in a way that future generations won't really know the truth and what happen.
Given that David was a real shepherd and protected sheep he must have plenty of years to practice his slingshot abilities on bears and lions and it does not take a stretch of imagination that his aiming with that slingshot was very accurate and knocked the ungodly heathen liberal Goliath out cold.
15 posted on 07/08/2011 6:44:06 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Westbrook

Is bias the same thing as not believing something is true?


16 posted on 07/08/2011 6:55:21 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Westbrook

Yes, you are. Depending on what news one chooses to read, there is lots, little, or none.


17 posted on 07/08/2011 6:59:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
Pay close attention to definition #2.

bi·as   /ˈbaɪəs/
noun, adjective, adverb, verb, bi·ased, bi·as·ing or (especially British) bi·assed, bi·as·sing.
–noun
1. an oblique or diagonal line of direction, especially across a woven fabric.
2. a particular tendency or inclination, especially one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice.
3. Statistics . a systematic as opposed to a random distortion of a statistic as a result of sampling procedure

When I studied journalism, our reports would be marked-down for even the slightest hint of bias.

"Biased reporting" was regarded as a contradiction in terms.

Bias was limited to the editorial page.

That was almost 50 years ago.

Nowadays, "biased reporting" has been transformed from an oxymoron to a redundancy.

18 posted on 07/08/2011 7:08:41 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Drawsing

You’ll shoot your eye out.


19 posted on 07/08/2011 7:14:43 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Cronos

I point that out to my (6th grade) CCD classes when we get to the story of David and Goliath. I’ve never had a kid who has heard it before.


20 posted on 07/08/2011 7:20:06 AM PDT by Varda
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